Actually Ray they look pretty good all things considered. Did you use flash on them? Have you ever tried HDR for this? I have been doing quite a bit of it in these kind of situations with a decent rate of success. The only problem is it does dramatically increase work flow time. And it certainly doesn't work for extreme situations. Dan -----Original Message----- From: ratpack-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ratpack-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray The Rat Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 4:48 PM To: undisclosed-recipients: Subject: [ratpack] Car show photos These photos are from the charity car show in Copperton, Ut on 9/26. http://www.chevyasylum.com/cruisin/cruisin2010/20100926/Welcome.html These were a bitch because of the variegated light through the trees and the backlighting from the sun low in the south. I tried to get shots of most cars, front and rear. With some I succeeded (and more) and with others I didn't/couldn't due to "circumstances beyond my control" (like cars packed side-by-side with only a foot or so in between them or trees in the way, etc.) but I didn't ignore anyone's car on purpose. It was one of the harder shoots lately and the next one (car show in American Fork, Ut) is a little more difficult cuz the sun's even lower on the horizon. r -- Sent from my Dreadnought with that useless Thunderbird email program (complete with new bugs)