[pure-silver] Re: Are most photographers visual learners... a little OT
- From: "BOB KISS" <bobkiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:38:06 -0400
DEAR BECKY,
Sorry for the late reply. I also trained in the RIT Photo Science
program (precursor to the Imaging Science program) but had started very
young making images from my own creative motivations.
Since I took a course in perception in 1970 I realized that we
should strive to use both lobes of our brains...left and right. While I was
majoring in Photo Sci, I also took courses in design, photo illustration,
etc, in order to keep my creative mind and eye working. Oddly enough I
opened an advertising and fashion photo studio in NYC instead of working in
Photo Sci and made my living for 2 decades bringing my creative capabilities
to bear solving client's visual marketing challenges. I moved to Barbados
in 1993 and had the first show of my personal creative photos in 1996.
Since then I have pretty evenly splint my time between commercial
assignments and my fine art photos, leaning more and more to alt photo
prints.
Now, at 56 I am so happy that I did because I can use both my visual
creativity and learning as well as the technical skills. Living here in
Barbados and having no workshops to attend I taught myself PT/PD printing
from books and by e-mail with the great help of those on the Alt Photo list.
If I hadn't had the technical/scientific training that would have been
impossible. If I hadn't kept my creative mind open I would never have made
a living in advertising and now in fine art.
I think one should try to use BOTH capabilities for learning and for
making photos.
CHEERS!
BOB
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave V
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 8:26 PM
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Are most photographers visual learners... a
little OT
I had asked the community if they knew..."Before Kodak introduced
> > sensitometry and densitometry does anyone know how the manufacturing
> > coating process was tested and controlled????"
Then gave the answer in another post.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "EJ Neilsen" <ej@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 1:01 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Are most photographers visual learners... a
little OT
> Dave, I didn't read any other post that you may have put up on this, but I
> would expect it to be visual. Like many other processes, such as cooking,
> wood working, etc, while there are measuring devices to aide the worker,
> we
> still rely an visual inspection to make it right.
>
> Eric Neilsen Photography
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-
>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave V
>> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 2:38 PM
>> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Are most photographers visual learners... a
>> little OT
>>
>> Sorry to mislead. I will disclose answer later, was wondering if others
>> knew.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 3:28 PM
>> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Are most photographers visual learners... a
>> little OT
>>
>>
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Dave V" <DValvo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:19 AM
>> > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Are most photographers visual learners... a
>> > little OT
>> >
>> >
>> > Becky, I'm sure I'm not typical of those that read this post. I have
>> more
>> > science background than photographic (trying to fix that in
>> > retirement).
>> > I have a masters degree in Image Science from RIT and spent 36 years at
>> EK
>> > from building photographic test systems to introducing new B&W papers.
>> I
>> > have taught the science side of photography to thousands of people
>> > (most
>> > at Kodak) but also in 5 countries. You can't imagine how trilled I am
>> > in
>> > retirement to finally shoot images for myself rather than test targets
>> or
>> > Shirley's. (Whoops! I just let a Kodak tidbit secret out of the bag.
>> > The first Kodak female model's name was Shirley. Every time someone
>> > needed model images, Shirley was called. And we called the process
>> > ....get some "Shirley's" on this new film or paper. When a new model
>> came
>> > along, with a different face, she was still called Shirley. After
>> almost
>> > a hundred years of shooting tests and models there have been a lot of
>> > Shirley's. ) You won't believe how boring it is to look at Shirley's.
>> >
>> > The things Shannon is doing is using an instrument to measure density
>> and
>> > a pencil to plot the results. A great learning experience and a lot
>> more
>> > precise than "looking " at an image.. Some people have listed the
>> > books
>> > printed that describe the process. That said. Before Kodak introduced
>> > sensitometry and densitometry does anyone know how the manufacturing
>> > coating process was tested and controlled????
>> >
>> > ---------------------------------------
>> > Do you know when Kodak began to use sensitometric testing? The basis
>> of
>> > the science is due to Hurter and Driffield. The citation is to their
>> > paper:
>> >
>> > Ferdnand Hurter and Vero Driffield, "Photochemical Investigations and a
>> > New Method of Determination of the Sensitiveness of Photographic
>> Plates",
>> > The Journal of the Society of Chemical Industry, May 31, 1890
>> >
>> > Certainly Mees must have been cognizant of this but I wonder if GE
>> > or
>> > anyone else at EKC was. Mees joined Kodak in 1912 but the principles of
>> > H&D must have been known there earlier.
>> > ---
>> > Richard Knoppow
>> > Los Angeles, CA, USA
>> > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
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