[pure-silver] Re: Are most photographers visual learners... a little OT

  • From: "EJ Neilsen" <ej@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:01:13 -0600

Dave, I didn't read any other post that you may have put up on this, but I
would expect it to be visual. Like many other processes, such as cooking,
wood working, etc, while there are measuring devices to aide the worker, we
still rely an visual inspection to make it right. 

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> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Are most photographers visual learners... a
> little OT
> 
> Sorry to mislead.  I will disclose answer later, was wondering if others
> knew.
> 
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> From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 3:28 PM
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Are most photographers visual learners... a
> little OT
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> 
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave V" <DValvo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:19 AM
> > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Are most photographers visual learners... a
> > little OT
> >
> >
> > Becky, I'm sure I'm not typical of those that read this post.  I have
> more
> > science background than photographic (trying to fix that in retirement).
> > I have a masters degree in Image Science from RIT and spent 36 years at
> EK
> > from building photographic test systems to introducing new B&W papers.
> I
> > have taught the science side of photography to thousands of people (most
> > at Kodak) but also in 5 countries. You can't imagine how trilled I am in
> > retirement to finally shoot images for myself rather than test targets
> or
> > Shirley's.  (Whoops!  I just let a Kodak tidbit secret out of the bag.
> > The first Kodak female model's name was Shirley.  Every time someone
> > needed model images, Shirley was called.  And we called the process
> > ....get some "Shirley's" on this new film or paper.  When a new model
> came
> > along, with a different face, she was still called Shirley.  After
> almost
> > a hundred years of shooting tests and models there have been a lot of
> > Shirley's. )  You won't believe how boring it is to look at Shirley's.
> >
> > The things Shannon is doing is using an instrument to measure density
> and
> > a pencil to plot the results.  A great learning experience and a lot
> more
> > precise than "looking " at an image..  Some people have listed the books
> > printed that describe the process.  That said.  Before Kodak introduced
> > sensitometry and densitometry does anyone know how the manufacturing
> > coating process was tested and controlled????
> >
> > ---------------------------------------
> >   Do you know when Kodak began to use sensitometric testing?  The basis
> of
> > the science is due to Hurter and Driffield. The citation is to their
> > paper:
> >
> > Ferdnand Hurter and Vero Driffield, "Photochemical Investigations and a
> > New Method of Determination of the Sensitiveness of Photographic
> Plates",
> > The Journal of the Society of Chemical Industry, May 31, 1890
> >
> >    Certainly Mees must have been cognizant of this but I wonder if GE or
> > anyone else at EKC was. Mees joined Kodak in 1912 but the principles of
> > H&D must have been known there earlier.
> > ---
> > Richard Knoppow
> > Los Angeles, CA, USA
> > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
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