Re: android app development
- From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 17:19:29 -0500
I am not saying Android is bad. For the moment, though, iOS offers
superior access technology and options to blind and low-vision users,
and so they get my vote. If Android eventually comes up to the same
level, which I expect them to in the future, it will be great, but
that does not mean I am going to use Android right now; I will use
what works best at present. If something better comes along, and I can
afford to upgrade, I will do so.
On 12/16/10, Littlefield, Tyler <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> And how long did it take apple to decide to support the braille
> displays? so because apple took forever after people joined the IOrgi
> and android wasn't right up there with them, it's bad?
> On 12/16/2010 2:41 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> I know it is not ideal right now. However:
>> 1. This is the first iteration of braille input and output in iOS, and
>> the first release of anything is never perfect. At least grade 2
>> output is good, the touch cursor works for editing, and so on.
>> 2. You can just get a case with a bluetooth (qwerty) keyboard that
>> flips out for when you do not want to use the braille.
>> 3. At least braille output is there, making it very convenient to look
>> up information when it is too noisy to hear the speech, and you can
>> even turn off speech and still use braille.
>> Sure there are bugs, but I am saying that it is a great deal better
>> than Android, and Google did not seem to even make an effort with the
>> 2.3 release...
>>
>> On 12/16/10, Ken Perry<whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> As for the Braille displays on the IPhone it might support them but
>>> just
>>> try to type a web address let me explain how you have to do it because of
>>> the stupid way Apple did Braille.
>>>
>>> Type w three times wait almost 2 seconds sometimes then type low d if you
>>> don't wait you will get double d. then type google. Wait till it catches
>>> p
>>> sometimes its fast sometimes it is not type low d again make sure it
>>> catches
>>> up or you will get double d. They did not support computer Braille so
>>> you
>>> have to do these stupid work arounds to be able to type. I would rather
>>> get
>>> a tooth pulled with no anesthetic. So my nice RB18 stays put away and I
>>> type on the screen slowly. Really slow.ly. With my G2 though I can msn
>>> rocket fast and I can even search even though the web browser is iffy
>>> with
>>> ideal it is getting better. I can tell you that in the long run apple
>>> will
>>> not hold a candle to Android.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:56 PM
>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: android app development
>>>
>>> No, I have not used it much, but I have read many reviews, including
>>> the recent article about the lack of built in accessibility frameworks
>>> all but halting development of better screen readers which could, for
>>> example, provide use of the touch screen for standard UI elements.
>>> While Android's accessibility may not be Narrator, my point was that
>>> it is far behind where Apple is, and the most recent version of
>>> Android did nothing to change that, whereas the most recent version of
>>> iOS added wireless braille support for just about every
>>> bluetooth-enabled display I can think of.
>>>
>>> On 12/16/10, Littlefield, Tyler<tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> You've apparently not used android much. I know people that use it for
>>>> quite a lot, and it does more than narrator does.
>>>> On 12/16/2010 11:38 AM, Alex Midence wrote:
>>>>> So ironic. Downright sad, if you ask me.
>>>>>
>>>>> "In the house of the blacksmith, they use a wooden knife."--Old Latin
>>>>> American saying.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mechanics' children have broken cars ..." "... A doctor's family
>>>>> never gets cured."--Old proverbs from elsewhere
>>>>>
>>>>> Alex M
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:30 AM
>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: Re: iOS development?
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>> Android has the equivalent of Microsoft Narrator, whereas iOS has
>>>>> JAWS, complete with wireless braille display support (which is quite
>>>>> good, especially as it is the first braille support for iOS).
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