Re: android app development

And how long did it take apple to decide to support the braille displays? so because apple took forever after people joined the IOrgi and android wasn't right up there with them, it's bad? 
On 12/16/2010 2:41 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

I know it is not ideal right now. However:
1. This is the first iteration of braille input and output in iOS, and
the first release of anything is never perfect. At least grade 2
output is good, the touch cursor works for editing, and so on.
2. You can just get a case with a bluetooth (qwerty) keyboard that
flips out for when you do not want to use the braille.
3. At least braille output is there, making it very convenient to look
up information when it is too noisy to hear the speech, and you can
even turn off speech and still use braille.
Sure there are bugs, but I am saying that it is a great deal better
than Android, and Google did not seem to even make an effort with the
2.3 release...

On 12/16/10, Ken Perry<whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:

   As for the Braille displays on the IPhone it might support them but just
try to type a web address let me explain how you have to do it because of
the stupid way Apple did Braille.

Type w three times wait almost 2 seconds sometimes then type low d if you
don't wait you will get double d.  then type google. Wait till it catches p
sometimes its fast sometimes it is not type low d again make sure it catches
up or you will get double d.  They did not support computer Braille so you
have to do these stupid work arounds to be able to type.  I would rather get
a tooth pulled with no anesthetic.  So my nice RB18 stays put away and I
type on the screen slowly.  Really slow.ly.  With my G2 though I can msn
rocket fast and I can even search even though the web browser is iffy with
ideal it is getting better.  I can tell you that in the long run apple will
not hold a candle to Android.

Ken

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No, I have not used it much, but I have read many reviews, including
the recent article about the lack of built in accessibility frameworks
all but halting development of better screen readers which could, for
example, provide use of the touch screen for standard UI elements.
While Android's accessibility may not be Narrator, my point was that
it is far behind where Apple is, and the most recent version of
Android did nothing to change that, whereas the most recent version of
iOS added wireless braille support for just about every
bluetooth-enabled display I can think of.

On 12/16/10, Littlefield, Tyler<tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:

You've apparently not used android much. I know people that use it for
quite a lot, and it does more than narrator does.
On 12/16/2010 11:38 AM, Alex Midence wrote:

So ironic.  Downright sad, if you ask me.

"In the house of the blacksmith, they use a wooden knife."--Old Latin
American saying.

"Mechanics' children have broken cars ..."  "... A doctor's family
never gets cured."--Old proverbs from elsewhere

Alex M

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Android has the equivalent of Microsoft Narrator, whereas iOS has
JAWS, complete with wireless braille display support (which is quite
good, especially as it is the first braille support for iOS).
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