Doug, ME, has two sets of IP addresses,as it is has two NIC's. The one you use to connect to the other machine and the one that you use to connect to the net, which of course needs a IP number that your ISP gives you. Now to be a real pain. Can you install the modem on the XP machine at all, as I think this may work a lot better for you then? If not we need to work out why things are not going quite right. I would suggest, if you can and do move the modem so it works off the XP machine, you remove the firewall off the ME machine, if you have to leave the modem attached through the ME machine, then remove the firewall from the XP machine. I have found with my computers I only need the firewall on the machine that has the modem directly connected. The other is all ready hidden doing this. It may also be worth uninstalling the network card on the ME machine as well, and starting again, as that seamed to help Chris a lot also. His machine's were then able to talk fine after he did that. I am in a town called Malvern in Worcestershire, UK. Trevnal ----- Original Message ----- where about on the Costa? Where my cousin lives, it is about 2 mins from the beach, tops!! Okay I see a problem or two here. The two machines should both have IP addresses starting 192.168.0.x . However I see that they both have different addresses, so they can not see each other to talk to other than by ping. ======== isn't it weird that I've got 2 sets of ip address's on the win me ? ========= You need to change the ME machine to 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0 This should then give the XP machine a new address as soon as you restart them both. ============ No, it doesn't, when Ipconfig xp pro. it says connection specific dns suffix : Autoconfiguration ip address : 169.254.83.164 subnet mask : 255.255.0.0 ================= Are you sure you are using a cross over cable? I am not sure what colours you will have there, but here when I make them it goes from left to right "White/Orange - Orange - White/Green - Blue - White/Blue - Green - White/brown - Brown" at one end, and at the other "White/Green - Green - White/Orange - Blue - White/Blue - Orange - White/brown - Brown" =========== Definitely a crossover. And the little lights come on just next to where the cable gets plugged in. ========= Over to you. Where are you ? Doug. To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/