Thanks Mike for answering this and as I mentioned to John, there were special agents who at certain camps set the scene prior to the liberation and made it look worse than it was originally. This devastation was not spread across all the camps as some had sufficient food supplies as witnessed by old photos and news clips which show the released inmates looking very healthy. The other factor is that most of the German concentration camps were run by Jews who would not think twice about murdering their own people to further their agenda. One must not forget that it was the British (jews) who invented concentration camps to hold Boer women while their menfolk were at war - they were cruelly treated and many starved to death! The 2 world wars were all about destroying two great white Christian nations! - Chris From: patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Green Sent: 20 September 2014 15:23 To: patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [patriots] Re: News re Holocaust Calm down Ray, no-one is saying anything of the sort. Of course there were dead and dying, and of course the scenes encountered by the camp liberators were horrifying, but this was only in some of the camps. These particular camps just so happened to have typhus and other epidemics raging through them and had not been receiving food or medical supplies for months as a direct result of the allies bombing the supply lines. This is a matter of record, indeed the Red Cross, who had representatives in ALL of the camps, said that the allied bombing did more harm to the inmates in those those particular camps during the last three or four months leading up to their liberation than the Germans had done throughout the entire war. That is what your friends and relatives witnessed as opposed to the hysterical lies and propaganda that you are spouting. Did you not know that the allied medical corps (both US and British) carried out post mortems on thousands of the dead and reported that the inmates had died from typhus and other diseases and malnutrition? Not one single case of death by gas poisoning could be found. None! Their reports can still be seen today/ Your American officers were absolutely correct to be disgusted but, acting on pure impulse, unfortunately they took their disgust out on the wrong people. As for you reference to "gas ovens", they were actually coke fired crematoria, designed and built to cremate people who died in the camps. Bodies could not be buried, particularly at Auschwitz, because of the risk of Typhus so they were burned. There were only a small number of crematoria, and certainly nowhere near enough to burn the ridiculous numbers touted by the propagandists. They have done one heck of a job on you Ray. Where were you when Jack was presenting you with all of the evidence that blows these lies to pieces? With respect I really do suggest it is time you take your gas tinted spectacles off and do some serious research into this. Until you have done so then I hardly think you are in a position to make such judgements as you have here. Mike. On 20/09/14 14:33, Rays1 wrote: Now, I've respect for all and both here, and John T but, consider me as 'Joe Public' for a second, ok? From this 'devils advocate' position, you appear to be saying that all the concentration camp evidence of decimated and starved bodies (many even being bull-dozed into pits) - which all older folks know of, - "was all edited and revamped in Hollywood by Alfred Hitchcock". The archaeological, physical, human bodily remains in purpose-built and intentionally ENGINEERED gas ovens, and ALL photographic records which openly support and prove the veracity of my relatives personal witness, should now be instantly dismissed as just so much BS ...and just because you claim,.... "The film footage of allies entering the concentration camps was all edited and revamped in Hollywood by Alfred Hitchcock" Have you any idea how completely "NUTSO" that might sound to everyone else? Just listen for a second, Ok?. I have family relatives that were amongst those that actually entered those camps as part of our army and who personally witnessed those atrocities on the ground - and at that time. They told me that some American officers were so utterly disgusted at what they witnessed that they simply dragged out the nearest Nazi in charge and summarily hung them on the spot. (Clearly a war crime too but, one of the few that might be somewhat understandable?) It was clear that some of ours did exactly the same My wifes Grandad experienced both world wars - sadly, died at 95yrs -...Am I, or the public at large, supposed to abruptly drop our life beliefs and our loved ones honest testimony to us as 'delusions' and instead embrace your text? So, my relatives lied to me, did they ?!.. their senses somehow betrayed them and they were simply unaware that they were in fact, taking an unwitting part in........film footage of allies entering the concentration camps was all edited and revamped in Hollywood by Alfred Hitchcock.." Oh, I see!...So they were all 'deluded' and did not realise that all their tramping and fighting across France for weeks on end beforehand was actually doing no more than playing a bit part in a Hollywood plot devised by Alfred Hitchcock?!!....Really...? Oh, Give me a break. Ray From: patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of john TIMBRELL Sent: 20 September 2014 08:08 To: cpead@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:cpead@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [patriots] Re: News re Holocaust Thanks for your reply Chris. Have you any knowledge of the cotent of the film which would contradict my suspicion which is, that the film showed the true position of the camps.i.e no gas chambers and that the piles of bodies were the result of starvation and disease. I suspect the Jews knew this and stopped it's circulation. If I am right I suspect they will try and stop it's transmission and it will need people like yourself to force it's transmission. There was another reel of film which Hitchcock did not use. If the Imperial War Museum did an unbiased job of restoring the film and including the added reel then it may show some true light on the subject and awaken the present public to the lies spread by the Jews and now supported by Cameron. JohnT _____ From: cpead@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:cpead@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: johntimbrell@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:johntimbrell@xxxxxxxxxx> ; patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [patriots] Re: News re Holocaust Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 11:08:34 +0100 Hello John, The film footage of allies entering the concentration camps was all edited and revamped in Hollywood by Alfred Hitchcock, including the wheeling of dead Germans to passed off as Jews - see attached file - Chris From: patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of john TIMBRELL Sent: 18 September 2014 08:45 To: patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [patriots] News re Holocaust BBC radio 4 0815 + 18th Sept. Hear now on iPlayer. Review of previously unshown film restored at the British war museum. This is material filmed by ordinary people but specially trained as cameramen who accompanied soldiers as they entered the concentration camps. The material was collated by Alfred Hitchcock but was never shown in a completed form. No reason given as yet. The reviewer said there were heaps of bodies and people in a terrible state. A decision was made to keep the people within the camps to feed them because there was no food outside the camps. Plus the camps were riddled with typhus and they did not wish the disease to be spread outside the camps. I'm unsure of the following. The man commissioning the film was named Bernstein. Perhaps he was the person who decided not to show the film. JohnT _____ <http://www.avast.com/> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com/> protection is active. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com