[opendtv] Re: Off topic: Researchers uncover potent greenhouse gas
- From: "Dale Kelly" <dalekelly@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:58:40 -0700
Conspiracy theories abound, as does obfuscation.
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> [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Craig Birkmaier
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:11 AM
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> Subject: [opendtv] Re: Off topic: Researchers uncover potent greenhouse
> gas
>
>
> At 9:15 AM -0700 10/28/08, Dale Kelly wrote:
> >Graig wrote
> >> We have been in a period of global cooling since 1998, with a rather
> >> dramatic drop in 2007.
> >
> >Your Global Cooling proposition is not supported by the facts as
> presented
> >in the following NASA global mean temperature records. You simply cannot
> >prove a predisposition by cherry picking data to support that position.
> >The NASA records clearly show that 2007 was actually warmer than 1998.
> >However, data for the first seven months of 2008 do show a
> relative cooling,
> >though these cooler temperatures are still significantly warmer than the
> >mean average temperature baseline. Rather than miss
> characterizing this as
> >"Global cooling, it is best described by "the temperature rise
> in 2008 has
> >slowed somewhat"
> >
> >http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts.txt
>
> This data is for meterological stations, not NASA satellite
> surface temp data.
>
> The meterological station data is highly suspect due to violations of
> the rules for placements of these stations. There is considerable
> information about this on the web.
>
> But this is largely irrelevant, as much of the data upon which Gore
> and others based their finding was just plain wrong, or cherry picked
> for effect.
>
> I prefer to look at historic data overall, as Easterbrook did, and to
> project based on real world data, not computer models for the future.
>
> There is nothing in the data to suggest that increased CO2 levels and
> increased temperatures in recent decades have been caused by man.
> There is considerable evidence in his paper to suggest a 40 year
> cycle that is linked in part to solar activity. Easterbrook made
> mincemeat of the IPCC predictions, which have no basis in fact.
>
> The whole global warming scam has been brought to you by the same
> people who have spent the last 30 years looting personal savings, the
> stock market and the real estate market. Maybe we should have been
> more concerned about the impact of sub-prime mortgages and the abuse
> of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to "guarantee" these mortgages as they
> were proliferated as investment securities worldwide. But Chris Dodd
> and Barney Frank said there was nothing to worry about...
>
> Looking at the current election cycle, I would have to characterize
> PRAVDA as a more believable source of information than the U.S.
> media...
>
> Regards
> Craig
>
> Regards
> Craig
>
>
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