[opendtv] Re: Off topic: Researchers uncover potent greenhouse gas
- From: "Bob Miller" <robmxa@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:18:20 -0400
And if enough blind folks cooperated in their research on the elephant
they might come up with a very accurate idea of what it was.
It is when each blind person sticks to just a small part of the
anatomy and doesn't work with the group that they have a distorted
"vision".
Bob Miller
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Though it should be noted that if blind folk were the only ones ever having
> encountered an elephant they would still be the best information source
> available.
>
> John Willkie wrote:
>>
>> "not supported" is passive voice. Just what percentage of actual -- say,
>> habitated -- points on the earth is represented by the NASA data? (very
>> small, close to nil). And, what do we have to compare it to?
>>
>> Seems to me to be an exercise akin to blind folk describing an elephant.
>>
>> John Willkie
>>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En
>> nombre de Dale Kelly
>> Enviado el: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:16 AM
>> Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Asunto: [opendtv] Re: Off topic: Researchers uncover potent greenhouse gas
>>
>> Graig wrote
>>>
>>> We have been in a period of global cooling since 1998, with a rather
>>> dramatic drop in 2007.
>>
>> Your Global Cooling proposition is not supported by the facts as presented
>> in the following NASA global mean temperature records. You simply cannot
>> prove a predisposition by cherry picking data to support that position.
>> The NASA records clearly show that 2007 was actually warmer than 1998.
>> However, data for the first seven months of 2008 do show a relative
>> cooling,
>> though these cooler temperatures are still significantly warmer than the
>> mean average temperature baseline. Rather than miss characterizing this as
>> "Global cooling, it is best described by "the temperature rise in 2008 has
>> slowed somewhat"
>>
>> http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts.txt
>>
>>
>>> Consider the work of Don J. Easterbrook, Professor Emeritus
>>> geomorphology; glacial geology; Pleistocene geochronology;
>>> environmental and engineering geology; Western Washington University.
>>
>> This presentation seems factual, is very interesting and is well presented
>> but the conclusions are simply one mans opinion. He does conclude that
>> warming is a fact but cannot prove or disprove that Co2 increases due to
>> human activities are a source for this increased warming.
>>
>> *In conclusion:* your reply does not address the original posting which
>> reports a newer and more powerful human activity related green house
>> gases.
>>
>>
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