On 05/02/09 05:47 PM, "Eurogarth" <eurogarth@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > (b) Scot dia:a state of affairs in a pretty, fine, nice, etc., or a mess, an > awkward state of affairs; I think the contradictory meaning [pretty, fine, nice...] vs [mess, awkward, etc] suggests that the message being carried is not in the words, but the emphasis attached to the phrase. Indeed, I suspect that a lot of this type of phraseology is just a way for the right brain (the emoting side, in theory (for right-handed individuals, typically)) to get it's message of acceptance or rejection across to the person listening. If this is the case, then one could probably have substituted a number of phrases to do the same thing, without altering the underlying message. I think the problem is that our written language is highly left-brain literate, but largely right-brain illiterate. That's what makes writing expressions to convey emotion so difficult. This is not usually a problem in person, since we can often tell the emotional content by the phrasing, volume, speed, cadence, etc. of the speech. Thus the expression "a fine kettle of fish" could be both a compliment or an insult, depending on the emotion it carries when spoken. But we have no emotional symbology [the right brain wants pictures not words] to convey the actual emotional content. [Perhaps emoticons are the beginning!] Thus when Eric [who is usually very reasoned and logical in is presentations] used a "slightly different kettle of fish" and then wondered where the expression came from, it would seem that his right brain was possibly interjecting, trying to express something, while his left brain [logical, speech side] wondered where it came from. [This is getting serious, I'm getting inside Eric's head!!! :-)) ] Larry ********************** Larry Kryski Spell Bound Publishing Suite 121 4056 Meadowbrook Drive London, Ontario N6L 1E3 Canada PH: 519 652-8267 FX: 519 652-8268 ********************** _________________________________________________ For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on http://muglo.on.ca/Pages/joinus.html Our Archives can be viewed at //www.freelists.org/archives/muglo Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: http://muglo.on.ca/