[modeleng] Re: FW: Rail Accident Investigation alert: RAIB investigation - Kirklees
- From: IAN BRAMBLE <ian.bramble@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 19:46:39 +0100 (BST)
A fusible plug isn't there to put the fire out - it's there as a warning
device.
The fire should be dropped as soon as the plug goes.
Quote from the 'black book' (Handbook for Railway Steam Locomotive Enginemen)
"...the lead melts and allows steam to escape into the firebox, which acts as a
warning to the Enginemen. Should this occur both injectors should be
immediately
put on and steps taken to remove or deaden the fire"
Ian
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From: Phill Smith <steam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, 29 July, 2011 10:40:46
Subject: [modeleng] Re: FW: Rail Accident Investigation alert: RAIB
investigation - Kirklees
Hmmmm No accident, but writing a report anyway? Sounds like the boys are
looking for something to do, as there is either too many of them for the
work that is out there, or, they have nothing more exciting to do.....
Sounds to me like the driver needs his arse kicking. According to the
preliminary report, that is..... The check valve shut of valve (normally the
only one in the feed line) should have been checked before taking it out on
the road, as it should not have been able to close itself (due to vibration,
sticky fingers, etc). Not being able to notice the fusible plug letting go
is the most serious thing. This indicates that it is simply not big enough
(this will require a new boiler code or 2), as it should be able to put out
the fire fairly quickly...... Unless..... There's multiple? In that case the
safety issue is reduced, as the rest obviously never got hot enough to
release......
I like this guessing game. It's just like being in a government safety
division....... LOL
On a serious note.... I have had a fusible plug leak before...... Couldn't
see anything to give it away, except that the centre of the fire wouldn't
burn properly. Had no problems keeping the water up though...... The leak
was a hairline crack down the side of the lead. The joint to the body had
failed. Not unusual for a lead plug. Tin is best. The expansion rate is
closer to the bronze body.
Cheers,
Phill.
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From: "John Browning" <jgb7573@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 5:02 PM
To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [modeleng] Re: FW: Rail Accident Investigation alert: RAIB
investigation - Kirklees
> Whoops!
>
> Sorry guys,
>
> Here's the link
>
>http://www.raib.gov.uk/publications/current_investigations_register/110703_kirklees.cfm
>m
>
> Regards,
>
> John
>
>
>> From: peter.cathcart@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [modeleng] Re: FW: Rail Accident Investigation alert: RAIB
>> investigation - Kirklees
>> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 09:46:34 +0100
>>
>> John
>>
>> There is no link in the email!
>>
>> Must be a variation of Rule 3!
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of John Browning
>> Sent: 29 July 2011 09:19
>> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [modeleng] FW: Rail Accident Investigation alert: RAIB
>> investigation - Kirklees
>>
>> Members of this list may well be interested in the following.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 09:08:11 +0100
>> From: alert@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: jgb7573@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Rail Accident Investigation alert: RAIB investigation - Kirklees
>>
>>
>> Rail Accident Investigation alert: RAIB investigation - Kirklees
>> Dear subscriber,
>>
>> The RAIB is carrying out an investigation into an incident which occurred
>> on
>> the Kirklees Light Railway near Huddersfield, in Yorkshire.
>>
>> Click here to read the full article on the Rail Accident Investigation
>> Website.
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