[macvoiceover] Re: what do we do about productivity on the mac?
- From: Rejean Proulx <rejean@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 07:43:35 -0400
A legal action would likely go nowhere. There are alternatives like pages.
On 2011-09-02, at 7:21 AM, Justin Mann wrote:
> I think that Micosoft should be held accountable for not making office for
> the mac accessible. However, unless you asa consumer decided t take legal
> action against them it would do little good.
> Windows does rule the workplace now, but that is changing. After all, look
> at where iPads are starting to turn up as business solutions.
> On Sep 1, 2011, at 9:09 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> since we are talking about the workplace, and almost every office in the
>> world uses windows, isn't this kind of a pointless argument? I'm not saying
>> MS Office shouldn't be made accessible on the Mac but, I think improving
>> iWork is even more important mainly because its the point of least
>> resistance. Before we can even worry about office being accessible on the
>> Mac to improve working conditions for the blind, don't we need Macs in the
>> workplace first?
>>
>> JMO.
>>
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2011, at 5:52 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote:
>>
>>> To make this clear, we are talking about the workplace, and Microsoft is
>>> the ruler there. This is why it is so important for us to get Microsoft to
>>> make Office accessible.
>>>
>>>> From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Date: September 1, 2011 5:21:34 PM EDT
>>>> To: VO List <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: what do we do about productivity on the mac?
>>>> Reply-To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> Please don't contact Microsoft about any of this! They've messed up
>>>> Office 2007 in Windows badly enough in addition to doing a bad copy of
>>>> the Macintosh environment for Windows I don't want them making anything
>>>> on the mac accessible. Better they should make Windows as installable
>>>> as Mac OSX is with speech coming on at the beginning of that process
>>>> first. Then those that must use windows at home at least will be able
>>>> to reinstall it without sighted assistance when it gets compromised by
>>>> the latest malware. One of the reasons I look forward to retirement is
>>>> I'll be able to go through a whole day with a computer and not be
>>>> required to use anything made by Microsoft. Accessible versions of
>>>> OpenOffice have been available for some time by now and OpenOffice has
>>>> the active support of 10 corporations behind it rather than one
>>>> corporation. The more brains, the better the product.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Marcy Weinberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello, everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw this message on another list, and felt it was important enough to
>>>>> post here.
>>>>>
>>>>> spreadsheets and documents and presentations, oh my!
>>>>>
>>>>> Many blind folk are successfully employed for performing tasks which
>>>>> involve the above and have been for many years. Few if any though are
>>>>> using the mac for many reasons but I want to focus on moving forward in
>>>>> areas in which we can move forward and to focus your attention and seek
>>>>> your assistance with those.
>>>>>
>>>>> We need gallant folk to step up to Microsoft and shout out that office
>>>>> needs to be made accessible in order that the market for blind employees
>>>>> will be wider. To do this, folk must provide concrete detailed and
>>>>> factual information about the issues of using Microsoft office on the
>>>>> mac. You can even find some good stuff that is already written and
>>>>> submit it to them. I don't have a handle on the Microsoft stream and
>>>>> cannot purchase the product so cannot help directly but am willing to
>>>>> help in any other way I can.
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to provide solid feedback to apple on issues related to IWork
>>>>> from a productivity standpoint. Some employers will be willing to accept
>>>>> a blind person with a mac since we can export office formats and they
>>>>> would be willing to mix systems if they are able.
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to locate employers willing to work with us and rehab or other
>>>>> agencies who are willing to take on the challenge if for nothing less
>>>>> than the potential cost savings.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that there are a myriad of issues which we face with regard to
>>>>> this ultimate goal of prominent positioning of mac in the work place of
>>>>> the blind, but if we work together, perhaps we can move forward and
>>>>> provide assistance in this important effort.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that there are efforts ongoing at apple and lots of feedback
>>>>> coming to them which they are paying attention to and which is helping to
>>>>> guide them toward better accessibility. I'd like though to discuss
>>>>> experiences and desires and perhaps translate some of those into
>>>>> meaningful dialog with apple and microsoft.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Marcy
>>>>> Hope you're having a nice day!
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jude <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> "I love the Pope, I love seeing him in his Pope-Mobile, his three feet
>>>> of bullet proof plexi-glass. That's faith in action folks! You know he's
>>>> got God on his side."
>>>> ~ Bill Hicks
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>>> Marcy
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