[macvoiceover] Re: what do we do about productivity on the mac?

What do you mean by this?

On Sep 1, 2011, at 6:27 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

I think tinyfugue is available for the mac, but to use it you can't be 
afraid of the command line.  Have you checked out ancientanguish.org 
yet?On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Rejean Proulx wrote:

> Since I retired I mostly use the Mac. I only use Windows for Mud games and 
> FireFox if I need it. Mind you, Safari is making huge strides such that I 
> require FireFox less and less.
> 
> As far as corporations go, you use what other employes use, and that is 
> mostly Windows. Over the passed 5 years I found accessibility of software 
> used in corporations going down. I don't miss working. It is getting more and 
> more difficult, not less. The Mac seems to be the only thing improving. I 
> hope I am not being sower in my old age, I don't think so.
> 
> On 2011-09-01, at 5:21 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> 
>> Please don't contact Microsoft about any of this!  They've messed up 
>> Office 2007 in Windows badly enough in addition to doing a bad copy of 
>> the Macintosh environment for Windows I don't want them making anything 
>> on the mac accessible.  Better they should make Windows as installable 
>> as Mac OSX is with speech coming on at the beginning of that process 
>> first.  Then those that must use windows at home at least will be able 
>> to reinstall it without sighted assistance when it gets compromised by 
>> the latest malware.  One of the reasons I look forward to retirement is 
>> I'll be able to go through a whole day with a computer and not be 
>> required to use anything made by Microsoft.  Accessible versions of 
>> OpenOffice have been available for some time by now and OpenOffice has 
>> the active support of 10 corporations behind it rather than one 
>> corporation.  The more brains, the better the product.
>> 
>> On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Marcy Weinberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello, everyone,
>>> 
>>> I saw this message on another list, and felt it was important enough to 
>>> post here.
>>> 
>>> spreadsheets and documents and presentations, oh my!
>>> 
>>> Many blind folk are successfully employed for performing tasks which 
>>> involve the above and have been for many years.  Few if any though are 
>>> using the mac for many reasons but I want to focus on moving forward in 
>>> areas in which we can move forward and to focus your attention and seek 
>>> your assistance with those.
>>> 
>>> We need gallant folk to step up to Microsoft and shout out that office 
>>> needs to be made accessible in order that the market for blind employees 
>>> will be wider.  To do this, folk must provide concrete detailed and factual 
>>> information about the issues of using Microsoft office on the mac.  You can 
>>> even find some good stuff that is already written and submit it to them.  I 
>>> don't have a handle on the Microsoft stream and cannot purchase the product 
>>> so cannot help directly but am willing to help in any other way I can.
>>> 
>>> We need to provide solid feedback to apple on issues related to IWork from 
>>> a productivity standpoint.  Some employers will be willing to accept a 
>>> blind person with a mac since we can export office formats and they would 
>>> be willing to mix systems if they are able.
>>> 
>>> We need to locate employers willing to work with us and rehab or other 
>>> agencies who are willing to take on the challenge if for nothing less than 
>>> the potential cost savings.
>>> 
>>> I know that there are a myriad of issues which we face with regard to this 
>>> ultimate goal of prominent positioning of mac in the work place of the 
>>> blind, but if we work together, perhaps we can move forward and provide 
>>> assistance in this important effort.
>>> 
>>> I know that there are efforts ongoing at apple and lots of feedback coming 
>>> to them which they are paying attention to and which is helping to guide 
>>> them toward better accessibility.  I'd like though to discuss experiences 
>>> and desires and perhaps translate some of those into meaningful dialog with 
>>> apple and microsoft.
>>> 
>>>     -- 
>>> Marcy
>>> Hope you're having a nice day!
>>> 
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>> Jude <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> got God on his side."
>> ~ Bill Hicks
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> Rejean Proulx
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Jude <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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~ Bill Hicks
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