[macvoiceover] Re: what do we do about productivity on the mac?

  • From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 18:27:17 -0400 (EDT)

I think tinyfugue is available for the mac, but to use it you can't be 
afraid of the command line.  Have you checked out ancientanguish.org 
yet?On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Rejean Proulx wrote:

> Since I retired I mostly use the Mac. I only use Windows for Mud games and 
> FireFox if I need it. Mind you, Safari is making huge strides such that I 
> require FireFox less and less.
> 
> As far as corporations go, you use what other employes use, and that is 
> mostly Windows. Over the passed 5 years I found accessibility of software 
> used in corporations going down. I don't miss working. It is getting more and 
> more difficult, not less. The Mac seems to be the only thing improving. I 
> hope I am not being sower in my old age, I don't think so.
> 
> On 2011-09-01, at 5:21 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> 
> > Please don't contact Microsoft about any of this!  They've messed up 
> > Office 2007 in Windows badly enough in addition to doing a bad copy of 
> > the Macintosh environment for Windows I don't want them making anything 
> > on the mac accessible.  Better they should make Windows as installable 
> > as Mac OSX is with speech coming on at the beginning of that process 
> > first.  Then those that must use windows at home at least will be able 
> > to reinstall it without sighted assistance when it gets compromised by 
> > the latest malware.  One of the reasons I look forward to retirement is 
> > I'll be able to go through a whole day with a computer and not be 
> > required to use anything made by Microsoft.  Accessible versions of 
> > OpenOffice have been available for some time by now and OpenOffice has 
> > the active support of 10 corporations behind it rather than one 
> > corporation.  The more brains, the better the product.
> > 
> > On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Marcy Weinberg wrote:
> > 
> >> Hello, everyone,
> >> 
> >> I saw this message on another list, and felt it was important enough to 
> >> post here.
> >> 
> >> spreadsheets and documents and presentations, oh my!
> >> 
> >> Many blind folk are successfully employed for performing tasks which 
> >> involve the above and have been for many years.  Few if any though are 
> >> using the mac for many reasons but I want to focus on moving forward in 
> >> areas in which we can move forward and to focus your attention and seek 
> >> your assistance with those.
> >> 
> >> We need gallant folk to step up to Microsoft and shout out that office 
> >> needs to be made accessible in order that the market for blind employees 
> >> will be wider.  To do this, folk must provide concrete detailed and 
> >> factual information about the issues of using Microsoft office on the mac. 
> >>  You can even find some good stuff that is already written and submit it 
> >> to them.  I don't have a handle on the Microsoft stream and cannot 
> >> purchase the product so cannot help directly but am willing to help in any 
> >> other way I can.
> >> 
> >> We need to provide solid feedback to apple on issues related to IWork from 
> >> a productivity standpoint.  Some employers will be willing to accept a 
> >> blind person with a mac since we can export office formats and they would 
> >> be willing to mix systems if they are able.
> >> 
> >> We need to locate employers willing to work with us and rehab or other 
> >> agencies who are willing to take on the challenge if for nothing less than 
> >> the potential cost savings.
> >> 
> >> I know that there are a myriad of issues which we face with regard to this 
> >> ultimate goal of prominent positioning of mac in the work place of the 
> >> blind, but if we work together, perhaps we can move forward and provide 
> >> assistance in this important effort.
> >> 
> >> I know that there are efforts ongoing at apple and lots of feedback coming 
> >> to them which they are paying attention to and which is helping to guide 
> >> them toward better accessibility.  I'd like though to discuss experiences 
> >> and desires and perhaps translate some of those into meaningful dialog 
> >> with apple and microsoft.
> >> 
> >>    -- 
> >> Marcy
> >> Hope you're having a nice day!
> >> 
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> > 
> > Jude <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Rejean Proulx
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Jude <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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of bullet proof plexi-glass. That's faith in action folks! You know he's
got God on his side."
~ Bill Hicks
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