I think tinyfugue is available for the mac, but to use it you can't be afraid of the command line. Have you checked out ancientanguish.org yet?On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Rejean Proulx wrote: > Since I retired I mostly use the Mac. I only use Windows for Mud games and > FireFox if I need it. Mind you, Safari is making huge strides such that I > require FireFox less and less. > > As far as corporations go, you use what other employes use, and that is > mostly Windows. Over the passed 5 years I found accessibility of software > used in corporations going down. I don't miss working. It is getting more and > more difficult, not less. The Mac seems to be the only thing improving. I > hope I am not being sower in my old age, I don't think so. > > On 2011-09-01, at 5:21 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > Please don't contact Microsoft about any of this! They've messed up > > Office 2007 in Windows badly enough in addition to doing a bad copy of > > the Macintosh environment for Windows I don't want them making anything > > on the mac accessible. Better they should make Windows as installable > > as Mac OSX is with speech coming on at the beginning of that process > > first. Then those that must use windows at home at least will be able > > to reinstall it without sighted assistance when it gets compromised by > > the latest malware. One of the reasons I look forward to retirement is > > I'll be able to go through a whole day with a computer and not be > > required to use anything made by Microsoft. Accessible versions of > > OpenOffice have been available for some time by now and OpenOffice has > > the active support of 10 corporations behind it rather than one > > corporation. The more brains, the better the product. > > > > On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > > > >> Hello, everyone, > >> > >> I saw this message on another list, and felt it was important enough to > >> post here. > >> > >> spreadsheets and documents and presentations, oh my! > >> > >> Many blind folk are successfully employed for performing tasks which > >> involve the above and have been for many years. Few if any though are > >> using the mac for many reasons but I want to focus on moving forward in > >> areas in which we can move forward and to focus your attention and seek > >> your assistance with those. > >> > >> We need gallant folk to step up to Microsoft and shout out that office > >> needs to be made accessible in order that the market for blind employees > >> will be wider. To do this, folk must provide concrete detailed and > >> factual information about the issues of using Microsoft office on the mac. > >> You can even find some good stuff that is already written and submit it > >> to them. I don't have a handle on the Microsoft stream and cannot > >> purchase the product so cannot help directly but am willing to help in any > >> other way I can. > >> > >> We need to provide solid feedback to apple on issues related to IWork from > >> a productivity standpoint. Some employers will be willing to accept a > >> blind person with a mac since we can export office formats and they would > >> be willing to mix systems if they are able. > >> > >> We need to locate employers willing to work with us and rehab or other > >> agencies who are willing to take on the challenge if for nothing less than > >> the potential cost savings. > >> > >> I know that there are a myriad of issues which we face with regard to this > >> ultimate goal of prominent positioning of mac in the work place of the > >> blind, but if we work together, perhaps we can move forward and provide > >> assistance in this important effort. > >> > >> I know that there are efforts ongoing at apple and lots of feedback coming > >> to them which they are paying attention to and which is helping to guide > >> them toward better accessibility. I'd like though to discuss experiences > >> and desires and perhaps translate some of those into meaningful dialog > >> with apple and microsoft. > >> > >> -- > >> Marcy > >> Hope you're having a nice day! > >> > >>> > >>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > >>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > >>> > >>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > >>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > >>> > >>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > >>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > >>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > >>> > >> > >> > > > > Jude <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > "I love the Pope, I love seeing him in his Pope-Mobile, his three feet > > of bullet proof plexi-glass. That's faith in action folks! You know he's > > got God on his side." > > ~ Bill Hicks > >> > >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > >> > >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > >> > >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > >> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > >> > > > > Rejean Proulx > > > > > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > Jude <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> "I love the Pope, I love seeing him in his Pope-Mobile, his three feet of bullet proof plexi-glass. That's faith in action folks! You know he's got God on his side." ~ Bill Hicks > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >