[mac4theblind] Re: help on help!
- From: John Panarese <jpanarese@xxxxxx>
- To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 12:48:58 -0500
If that command is not working, try the VO Window chooser. It should work,
unless there is no other windows open. As an experiment, open Safari and open
a couple of web pages. Then, try the command-accent key combination.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
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On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:42 PM, "Julio C. Perez" <jcperez11@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The command-accent (key left of #1 in keyboard number row) does nothing on my
> system. I am using Lion. I also have a numeric keypad (wireless external). I
> find this tremendously helpful since I don't need to try and execute those VO
> multi-key commands that make me wish I had six fingers on one hand.
> On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote:
>
>> You can also try command along with the grav key. This will move you from
>> window to window within an application. At least it does in Snowleopard.
>>
>>
>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:30 PM, George B wrote:
>>
>>> good job david i am not on my mac and could not remember that command
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind-
>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert Poehlman
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 09:27
>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: help on help!
>>>>
>>>> try vo-f2 twice to bring up a list of open windows.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Julio C. Perez wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So, when I press command-tab twice, it doesn't bring me to the
>>>> previously open help topic I left. It only switches me to the other
>>>> application windows or brings me back to the same VO utilities window.
>>>> If I go to the menu and arrow down the windows options, I only see one
>>>> applications window available to choose from. Is one of those other
>>>> options on that windows drop-down the one I need to take me back to the
>>>> topic I left? How does one switch to different windows within an
>>>> application window?
>>>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:00 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> try command-tab twice.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 11:47 AM, George B wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> First of all command tab changes your application from one to another
>>>> not
>>>>> windows within a application.
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind-
>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Julio C. Perez
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 08:44
>>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: help on help!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, here is an example..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am currently in a help window that has . here is an even better
>>>>>> example of not having a clue of something that should be (and needs
>>>> to
>>>>>> be) understood by a neophyte.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I am writing this message, I switch to another window where I'm
>>>>>> working with a help topic. I switch back to this window to write
>>>>>> something and when I use the "command-tab" hoping to return to the
>>>> help
>>>>>> window. I end up back in the VoiceOver utilities area. Not the help
>>>>>> topic I thought I would be going to. How do I make this simple
>>>> switch
>>>>>> from one window to another without having to navigate back to the
>>>> topic
>>>>>> layer after linked layer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the sort of thing that I never had to think about before.
>>>>>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 11:24 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> can you give us an example? I believe I know what you need to do
>>>> but
>>>>>> rather than searching through help for an item, it would speed up
>>>> the
>>>>>> process having an example.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Julio C. Perez wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems like the more I think I've learned, the more I know I've
>>>>>> missed!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right now I'm going through the VoiceOver help menu seeking areas
>>>> I'm
>>>>>> weak on and hoping to learn more. When I get to a "show" clickable
>>>>>> object, I select it. and nothing seems to happen except that it
>>>> changes
>>>>>> from a "show" to a "hide" area. Where does the related information
>>>> get
>>>>>> shown? What part of this process am I not getting?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can freely admit that navigation and safari navigation in
>>>>>> particular are my weakest areas. This makes learning via the
>>>> provided
>>>>>> help topics slow. Does anyone know of a good tutorial for
>>>> transplanted
>>>>>> windows/internet explorer/JAWS users? I mean, there should be enough
>>>> of
>>>>>> us by now to have, at least, an email list that can serve as a place
>>>> to
>>>>>> trade and ask for information that might bore those of you for whom
>>>> the
>>>>>> mac environment is natural.
>>>>>>>
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>> Isaiah 2:11 Human pride will be brought down,
>> and human arrogance will be humbled.
>> Only the LORD will be exalted
>> on that day of judgment.
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