julio, that was to david in fun not to you > -----Original Message----- > From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Julio C. Perez > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 09:35 > To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: help on help! > > Oh, is not that I didn't believe you. It is just that I was trying to > respond to two different suggestions in one message to save traffic. > On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:19 PM, George B wrote: > > > I gess you did not beleave me when I said command tab only changes > > applications > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind- > >> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Julio C. Perez > >> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 09:18 > >> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: help on help! > >> > >> So, when I press command-tab twice, it doesn't bring me to the > >> previously open help topic I left. It only switches me to the other > >> application windows or brings me back to the same VO utilities > window. > >> If I go to the menu and arrow down the windows options, I only see > one > >> applications window available to choose from. Is one of those other > >> options on that windows drop-down the one I need to take me back to > the > >> topic I left? How does one switch to different windows within an > >> application window? > >> On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:00 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote: > >> > >>> try command-tab twice. > >>> > >>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 11:47 AM, George B wrote: > >>> > >>> First of all command tab changes your application from one to > another > >> not > >>> windows within a application. > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind- > >>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Julio C. Perez > >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 08:44 > >>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: help on help! > >>>> > >>>> Ok, here is an example.. > >>>> > >>>> I am currently in a help window that has . here is an even better > >>>> example of not having a clue of something that should be (and > needs > >> to > >>>> be) understood by a neophyte. > >>>> > >>>> As I am writing this message, I switch to another window where I'm > >>>> working with a help topic. I switch back to this window to write > >>>> something and when I use the "command-tab" hoping to return to the > >> help > >>>> window. I end up back in the VoiceOver utilities area. Not the > help > >>>> topic I thought I would be going to. How do I make this simple > >> switch > >>>> from one window to another without having to navigate back to the > >> topic > >>>> layer after linked layer? > >>>> > >>>> This is the sort of thing that I never had to think about before. > >>>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 11:24 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> can you give us an example? I believe I know what you need to do > >> but > >>>> rather than searching through help for an item, it would speed up > >> the > >>>> process having an example. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Julio C. Perez wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> It seems like the more I think I've learned, the more I know I've > >>>> missed! > >>>>> > >>>>> Right now I'm going through the VoiceOver help menu seeking areas > >> I'm > >>>> weak on and hoping to learn more. When I get to a "show" clickable > >>>> object, I select it. and nothing seems to happen except that it > >> changes > >>>> from a "show" to a "hide" area. Where does the related information > >> get > >>>> shown? What part of this process am I not getting? > >>>>> > >>>>> I can freely admit that navigation and safari navigation in > >>>> particular are my weakest areas. This makes learning via the > >> provided > >>>> help topics slow. Does anyone know of a good tutorial for > >> transplanted > >>>> windows/internet explorer/JAWS users? I mean, there should be > enough > >> of > >>>> us by now to have, at least, an email list that can serve as a > place > >> to > >>>> trade and ask for information that might bore those of you for > whom > >> the > >>>> mac environment is natural. > >>>>> > >>>>> /jp, mac user without papers!************ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any > >>>> changes to their list subscription is: > >>>>> > >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > >>>>> > >>>>> The list archive is located at > >>>>> > >>>>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > >>>>> > >>>>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > >>>>> > >>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Jonnie Appleseed > >>>>> With His > >>>>> Hands-On Technolog(eye)s > >>>>> Touching The Internet > >>>>> Reducing Technology's disabilities > >>>>> One Byte At A Tie > >>>>> > >>>>> ************ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any > >>>> changes to their list subscription is: > >>>>> > >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > >>>>> > >>>>> The list archive is located at > >>>>> > >>>>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > >>>>> > >>>>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > >>>>> > >>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> ************ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any > >>>> changes to their list subscription is: > >>>> > >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > >>>> > >>>> The list archive is located at > >>>> > >>>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > >>>> > >>>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > >>>> > >>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > >>> ************ > >>> > >>> > >>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > >>> > >>> > >>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any > >> changes to their list subscription is: > >>> > >>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > >>> > >>> The list archive is located at > >>> > >>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > >>> > >>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > >>> > >>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Jonnie Appleseed > >>> With His > >>> Hands-On Technolog(eye)s > >>> Touching The Internet > >>> Reducing Technology's disabilities > >>> One Byte At A Tie > >>> > >>> ************ > >>> > >>> > >>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > >>> > >>> > >>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any > >> changes to their list subscription is: > >>> > >>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > >>> > >>> The list archive is located at > >>> > >>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > >>> > >>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > >>> > >>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > >> > >> ************ > >> > >> > >> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > >> > >> > >> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any > >> changes to their list subscription is: > >> > >> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > >> > >> The list archive is located at > >> > >> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > >> > >> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > >> > >> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > ************ > > > > > > You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > > > > > > The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any > changes to their list subscription is: > > > > //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > > > > The list archive is located at > > > > //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > > > > All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > > > > john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > ************ > > > You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > > > The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any > changes to their list subscription is: > > //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > > The list archive is located at > > //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > > All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > > john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. 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