[mac4theblind] Re: help on help!

 now I've learned two great new commands from you folks on this thread. VO-f1 
and VO-f2. This should make exploration easier for the rest of this weekend. 
Thanks!
On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:50 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:

> actually, that is vo-f1 twice in rapid succession.
> 
> On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:
> 
> Failing that, try opening the "application menu". This can be done by 
> pressing VO keys and F2 twice in quick supsession. 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Daniel
> On 3 Mar 2012, at 17:26, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
> 
>> try vo-f2 twice to bring up a list of open windows.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Julio C. Perez wrote:
>> 
>> So, when I press command-tab twice, it doesn't bring me to the previously 
>> open help topic I left. It only switches me to the other application windows 
>> or brings me back to the same VO utilities window. If I go to the menu and 
>> arrow down the windows options, I only see one applications window available 
>> to choose from. Is one of those other options on that windows drop-down the 
>> one I need to take me back to the topic I left? How does one switch to 
>> different windows within an application window?
>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:00 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
>> 
>>> try command-tab twice.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 11:47 AM, George B wrote:
>>> 
>>> First of all command tab changes your application from one to another not
>>> windows within a application.
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind-
>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Julio C. Perez
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 08:44
>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: help on help!
>>>> 
>>>> Ok, here is an example..
>>>> 
>>>> I am currently in a help window that has . here is an even better
>>>> example of not having a clue of something that should be (and needs to
>>>> be) understood by a neophyte.
>>>> 
>>>> As I am writing this message, I switch to another window where I'm
>>>> working with a help topic. I switch back to this window to write
>>>> something and when I use the "command-tab" hoping to return to the help
>>>> window. I end up back in the VoiceOver utilities area. Not the help
>>>> topic I thought I would be going to. How do I make this simple switch
>>>> from one window to another without having to navigate back to the topic
>>>> layer after linked layer?
>>>> 
>>>> This is the sort of thing that I never had to think about before.
>>>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 11:24 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> can you give us an example?  I believe I know what you need to do but
>>>> rather than searching through help for an item, it would speed up the
>>>> process having an example.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Julio C. Perez wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It seems like the more I think I've learned, the more I know I've
>>>> missed!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Right now I'm going through the VoiceOver help menu seeking areas I'm
>>>> weak on and hoping to learn more. When I get to a "show" clickable
>>>> object, I select it. and nothing seems to happen except that it changes
>>>> from a "show" to a "hide" area. Where does the related information get
>>>> shown? What part of this process am I not getting?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can freely admit that navigation and safari navigation in
>>>> particular are my weakest areas. This makes learning via the provided
>>>> help topics slow. Does anyone know of a good tutorial for transplanted
>>>> windows/internet explorer/JAWS users? I mean, there should be enough of
>>>> us by now to have, at least, an email list that can serve as a place to
>>>> trade and ask for information that might bore those of you for whom the
>>>> mac environment is natural.
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