[This will be another one of my emails that I'll later regret typing. Please do not read it. Some day I'll learn.] The political is important. Respecting each other's talent and acknowledging that there is _no_ LuaJIT if there wasn't someone around with the design sense to make Lua in the first place, has a real place in this discussion. Because, if you like what Lua brings you, consider that real genius in technical areas does not mean equal genius in every area of design. What got ya here is probably essential in keeping ya here, as the language evolves. Calling 5.2 "Vista" and LuaJIT "leading" and PUC/RIO "following"... doesn't "help your case very much," even *if* you were right, whatever right might mean. At the same time, dismissing the practical concerns of a developer, who has managed to pull off a brilliant piece of work that fits nicely along side the standard implementation's mission, isn't helpful either. It was a shame that there wasn't consensus. One can only speculate as to why. Here's my speculation: "Why does this person, who i know to be smart, seem so dumb to me right now? What am I missing and how am I dumb?" Nothing ever gets truly better until that question is adequately answered. While two can titans can argue the merits of design choices, with one man's "frivolous API changes for no good reason" coming up against another man's "pruning," as a (still) community of people that would like to see more energy behind and adoption of the language, it cannot be argued that two incompatible versions of Lua the language could be a *good thing*. No matter what gains in speed could be had. Perhaps it is enough to say: I really, really, really wish that this would get resolved and not more acrimonious. The rest of it was my venting. My backspace and delete key must have gone missing... again. -Andrew