Lawrence Helm wrote: "Some Christians take certain passages to impose pacifism. The bulk of Christians throughout history do not." Did you know that during the first three hundred years of the Christian church, one could not be a soldier and a member of the church? To join the church, a soldier had to leave the army. If a member became a soldier, he was excommunicated. Sincerely, Phil Enns Glen Haven, NS ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html