[lit-ideas] Re: Beauty, anyone?

  • From: JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx
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  • Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:53:16 EST

How does something being subjective render it meaningless?
 
Julie Krueger

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Date: 2/19/2007 10:11:46 P.M. Central Standard Time  From: 
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Beauty means anything to anybody.  To talk  about beauty is basically to talk 
about opinion.  Beauty is so subjective  that it's meaningless.  Rather than 
Santayana or Rilke, how about the eye  of the beholder... 

Regarding art, think Hieronymus Bosch's stuff is  beautiful?  It's great art 
though.  How about a hanging toilet?   Impressive enough to hang in museums.  
Art, in my opinion, has little to  with "beauty," certainly in the 20th 
century, but even historically.  




-----Original Message-----
>From: Eric  <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Feb 19, 2007 5:59 PM
>To:  lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Beauty,  anyone?
>
> >>cannot share the enthusiasm for Scarry's  book
>
>Robert, a silly question, is that a philosopher's take on  the book? In 
>other words, does your evaluation of the book rise or fall  on the 
>presence or absence of convincing arguments, or can you be swayed  by her 
>unprovable assertions (such as beauty leading toward justice) and  find 
>that the eloquence of her survey redeems the  book?
>
>Who says more about beauty -- Santayana or Rilke? Who is  the expert, the 
>aesthetician or the artist?
>
>Without the  slightest  idea,
>Eric
>
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