On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 thepccat@xxxxxxxx writes: > > [1] Where can I apply to get back some of the $100 they spent > winning this account ;-)? Hi PC Cat, and All, Ha, ha... have to pry it out of the hands of some newspaper, radio and magazine media types I'd guess. Never saw hardly any of the couple hundred million they spent on advertising myself. > [2] What evidence do you have that they will collapse like a house > of cards in a week due to huge loss in subscriber numbers? More likely > many people will drag out the credit cards or checkbooks and become > subscribers. Remember the "huge loss of subscribers" which took > place when Juno placed de facto limits on Internet usage in order to clear > out the "heavy users?" That purge sure hurt Juno ;-). Evidence? Now you put me on the spot. I would have just gone with "common sense", but I can see from the rest of that paragraph that you're serious. Not sure who suggested a "huge loss of subscribers" from the changes when they began implementing "the big squeeze" back in December, but as Juno had said they were only aiming to curtail the usage of the 5% of heavy users, I wouldn't have thought the "number of subscribers" would drop more significantly than that, would you? But what the heck, let's do take a look at a couple of the numbers, shall we? In the December annual/quarterly report, Juno reported 4.0 million "active" subscribers which they define as ALL premium service customers, plus those using either of the free services, e-mail or the Internet service. And just for the record they also state that 90% of these users had web access. Which I guess means 10% just used the e-mail service. Anyway, back to our 5% of heavy users. That's 4.0 million active subscribers less 5% equals 3.8 million. Checking the level of subscribers we find just 3.3 million... huh? Down 17.5%! But then maybe you don't think 700,000 fewer active subscribers is significant... I don't know. And how many of those 3.3 million remaining rushed to their checkbooks to save their surfing experience... that would be December billable customers, 842,000, June billable customer, 884,000... so that's 42,000 new billable subscribers with a loss of 700,000 subscribers. But boy was Juno ever right about those 5% of users spending all their dough. Operating costs for the 3.16 (4.0m less 842k) million free riders in December cost them $10.9 million ($3.45), while the remaining 2.42 (3.3m less 884k) million free riders only spent $3.95 million ($1.63 each). I think we have to assume that most of the 400,000 free e-mail'ers (remember, 10% of 4 million active subscribers in December) have probably stuck around, why would they leave if Juno cut back the Free Internet Service? They weren't using it anyway... but how many will if they have to pay $9.95 a month for their e-mail? Of all the numbers that might be a surprise, I think this one may be the biggest unknown. Of the 2 million active free "web surfing" subscribers left in June (2.42m active subs less the 400,000 e-mail only'ers) how many do you actually think will rush for their wallets? Personally, I think many already have other access and keep their Juno accounts "just because". Juno has already driven off the serious surfers, retaining only 42,000 of 700,000... and as the remaining users are extremely "light users", remember, Juno ran off 17.5% of its users, but experienced a 64% reduction in telecommunications costs ($10.9 to $3.95 million) have had their access time curtailed WITHOUT rushing for their wallets, I think is a pretty good indicator they're not going to... not en masse, that's for sure. It also indicates to me that many of those who use Juno to access the web, do so more on a lark, using the service primarily for e-mail... which is by far, cheaper for Juno. And I also think Juno has irritated the heck out of many and I don't think they'll respond well to the "pay up or get the heck out" message coming down the road. Might as well throw that this is another reason I think Juno may continue to supply free e-mail. It's the ONLY way I see them saving these numbers. If they cut the free e-mail, I see many of the free e-mailers heading down the road. And while you could make an argument for not switching horses in mid-stream, I think there will be plenty of Juno surfers willing to brave the icy waters... unless they can "fallback" to just free e-mail. And finally (aren't you glad), I just see a huge difference in telling somebody, "OK, we're going to cut back on your free surfing, but we're still going to let you keep your free e-mail accounts" which is what they said in December, and soon it's going to be "It's either $9.95 a month (per account mind you) or we're blowing all your accounts to smithereens". Some will, of course, go for their spiel and why not? They're far from the worst ISP in the world... and pretty darn cheap... they, and Netzero, as United Online, will make a great "also ran". But #2? Don't make me laugh. I just don't think the hoards are going to materialize at the new paid subscriber window. George Lunt ..... so. cal. To unsubscribe, send a message to listar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe juno_accmail" in the body or subject. OR visit http://freelists.dhs.org ~*~