Hi, I've been hesitating to ask this, because I'm afraid I may be missing something obvious, and I don't wish to be insulting if there's some sort of serious problem I don't know about that needs solving. But I'll ask anyway, because I'm so curious after following this thread. First of all, how could it be that people are skilled enough with their computers to be participating in a mailing list like this one, and yet don't know how to shut down their computers even in the standard manner? I honestly don't understand that. Aren't basic instructions provided when someone gets a computer? You just exit your running applications and, now on the desktop, either put up the Start menu by pressing the left Start key, or the Windows key on the right, or Control Escape. Then press U for the Shut Down command and then choose U from the dialogue that opens, unless you want to restart, which means pressing R or alt R, and so forth, just as the dialogue instructs you. Or, as some folks have said, you can just exit your running applications so that you're just on the desktop, and then press the good old Alt F4 keystroke combo that's a nearly universal way to exit something in Windows, and then respond to that same dialogue with your choice as described above. either of these two methods takes far less time to execute than to describe, just a matter of a few seconds and a few keystrokes that become second nature without much effort. So, I'm wondering, why especially does anyone need a hotkey for any of this? as I said above, this is a sincere question, not sarcastic. Can anyone explain what inspired this thread so that I can get whatever it is that I'm missing, in case it's a window onto a new, critically efficient computer operation I might profit by learning? thanks, Daniel ----- Original Message ----- From: "harry bates" <hdbates@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:50 AM Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown? Unfortunately, I deleted the message that gave the steps to shutdown the computer, but I do wish to say thanks for the one that said: If you have a windows xp system, this really works: press the windows key and then press the letter "u" twice to shutdown or windows key u and then r to restart. The shutdown command for a windows xp system is then: windows key,u,u to shutdown or windows key,u,r to restart. Thanks for providing this quicker and better way of doing the shutdown. -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/310 - Release Date: 4/12/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/310 - Release Date: 4/12/2006 -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx