DxDesigner (aka ViewDraw aka Viewlogic) is pretty easy to learn. It's about the same level as Concept. It has niggles and pecularities just like everything else. The scripting language is quite powerful, but I don't know of any real documentation on it. It can hook into VBScript, perl, whatever. >>> "Gary MacIndoe" <gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx> 15/07/2006 5:39 a.m. >>> Hey guys, Well, it looks like I will be switching to Mentor (boo hoo!) after using Allegro for twelve years. Could anyone tell me which is the high end Mentor product? Also, any tips on learning it (I will probably get official training, but I want to get a jump on it). Does Mentor have scripts like Allegro, Constraint Manager etc.? Thanks for any responses! Gary E. MacIndoe PCB Design Engineer Advanced Micro Devices Longmont, Colorado NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs.