Hey Paul, Well, I have been comfortably numb for years (since 1995!) with Allegro Expert, and Concept HDL as the front end. I don't know DX Designer or Viewlogic, but I've heard of them. I don't really know much at this point, we are being moved to another group in the company, one that I hear uses Mentor products. I will be talking to someone in the new group and find out all of the details soon. Yes, I'm looking at it as an opportunity to learn something new! All of the same functions are there, I just need to figure out where they are, and how to be efficient at it. Thanks for the response! Regards, Gary E. MacIndoe PCB Design Engineer Advanced Micro Devices Longmont, Colorado _____ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Gingras Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:23 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: To Mentor... Hello Gary, Mentor's New Expedition tool suites are what would be comparable these days to Allegro's high end products. As you probably know Expedition is front ended by what Mentor has called DX Designer, but if you are familiar with Viewlogic schematic package then you will be fine as Viewlogic is DX Designer. they have thrown some hooks in there but it works. Do you know exactly what design flows and methodology AMD has purchased from Mentor? But Gary with all those years of PCB experience what's another Cad Package. Look at it as opportunity for yourself. PAUL Paul J Gingras KAW USA, LTD. "Real People .... Real Solutions" Voice: 603 886 8711 x200 Fax: 603 881 8763 Cell: 603 305 1475 Email: paul@xxxxxxx Web: www.kaw.com <http://www.kaw.com/> 39 Simon St. Bldg.#4 Nashua, NH 03060 Confidentiality Notice: This email and any accompanying documents contain information that is confidential, privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. This information is private and protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, or have received this email in error, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this document in any manner is strictly prohibited. _____ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary MacIndoe Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:40 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] To Mentor... Hey guys, Well, it looks like I will be switching to Mentor (boo hoo!) after using Allegro for twelve years. Could anyone tell me which is the high end Mentor product? Also, any tips on learning it (I will probably get official training, but I want to get a jump on it). Does Mentor have scripts like Allegro, Constraint Manager etc.? Thanks for any responses! Gary E. MacIndoe PCB Design Engineer Advanced Micro Devices Longmont, Colorado