OK Philip, What's the relevance, please explain? Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: philip madsen To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 9:10 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Regner concedes? If Regner conceded and accepted that the geocentric proof of geocentrism Jack asked Paul? Jack, Regner never will concede such a thing.. He asked the question if you all remember, what happens to a spinning bicycle wheel, if you try to turn it sideways.. In Newtonian physics thats the proof of the HC system. I told you all this yesterday.. We need to fault Newtons laws and prove it, to win this debate.. I'm hoping Robert with GWW can do that. Philip..