[geocentrism] Re: Regner concedes?

  • From: sungenis@xxxxxxx
  • To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:20:14 -0500

Gents,



I think Regner is waiting for my five evidences of geocentrism. If you 
remember, I offered the book Galileo Was Wrong to him for free as an answer to 
his original challenge, but he refused to read it. He wanted five evidences of 
geocentrism instead. I gave him one (concerning the Michelson-Morley 
experiment) and asked that he answer that one first, and if he did an honest 
job, I would send him four others. He refused that offer also, and insisted 
that I send him five challenges at once. I conceded and told him I would send 
four other challenges. I was out of town when these exchanges were taking 
place, so I could not add the other four challenges then, but I will work on it 
this week.

If any of you have any suggestions or comments before I put together these five 
challenges, please let me know.

Robert Sungenis


-----Original Message-----
From: philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 4:30 am
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Regner concedes?




Thats ok Jack, but don't lose the faith, its just a different battleground. 

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Philip. 


----- Original Message ----- 

From: Jack Lewis 

To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 6:44 PM

Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Regner concedes?




Thank you Philip,

This is not a subject I followed and therefore know nothing about. However I 
will consult those who know more about it than me - Neville perhaps or the 
Roberts'.

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Jack


----- Original Message ----- 

From: philip madsen 

To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 11:34 PM

Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Regner concedes?





Repeat for Jack and Allen;

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Regner?asked the question if you all remember, what happens to a spinning 
bicycle wheel, if you try to turn it sideways..? 

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In Newtonian physics thats the proof of the HC system.

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Newtons laws are demonstrable and satisfactory for dealing with motion, if not 
the reason why,?at least the properties as experienced. 

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Hold the axel firmly? with wheel edge in front of your nose whilst the wheel is 
spinning rapidly. Now try to rotate your body. 

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A spinning flywheel is stable and resists angular rotation around its axis of 
rotation . You can test this principle as Regner suggested. . 

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The bicycle depends on this principle to work. 

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A bicycle wheel that is suspended vertically and powered to rotate 
continuously, with the axel pointing east- west. in a frame having no 
resistance to rotation in any direction , (set in gymbol bearings) will 
maintain it orientation vertically for ever, except , because the earth is 
rotating one revolution per day, this frame will not turn with the motion of 
the earth. 

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Consequently if you are looking at this wheel edge on from the North, you will 
see the frame with the wheel turn slowly clockwise , making one complete turn 
per day.? If it was vertical on 12 oclock at noon, it will be pointing at 1 an 
hour later, and so on. 

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If the world was not rotating with any angular movement, this flywheel would 
remain in the vertical orientation . 

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We have known about, and discussed this here for years, why do we keep running 
away from it? Long range ballistic missile computers ?using inertial guidance 
systems must program in this rotation to stay on course..? 

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Philip. 

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----- Original Message ----- 

From: Allen Daves 

To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 7:37 AM

Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Regner concedes?



uh yea ..im at a loss here to phil........how does that prove HC again..?

Jack Lewis <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

OK Philip,

What's the relevance, please explain?

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Jack


----- Original Message ----- 

From: philip madsen 

To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 9:10 PM

Subject: [geocentrism] Regner concedes?




If Regner conceded and accepted that the geocentric proof of geocentrism? Jack 
asked Paul? 

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Jack, Regner never will concede such a thing..? 

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He asked the question if you all remember, what happens to a spinning bicycle 
wheel, if you try to turn it sideways..? 

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In Newtonian physics thats the proof of the HC system. 

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I told you all this yesterday..

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We need to fault Newtons laws and prove it, to win this debate..? I'm hoping 
Robert with GWW can do that. 

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Philip..? 

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