[geocentrism] Re: Regner concedes?

  • From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 09:02:27 +1000

Allen said:  .....so matter how you approach it Phill, Newtons laws do not 
indicate or prove anything...Why you instist that they do is beyond me...All 
this was coverd over 100 years ago AND THE DETERMINATION WAS MADE BY MS THAT 
NEWTON'S LAWS DID NOT PROVE HC OVER GC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11...WHERE HAVE YOU 
BEEN OL BOY...!?

OK ... as we both know Knewton wasd a Kabalist, and you obviously won't accept 
even a truthful word from him, I will put it another way. 

My observed law of motion as regards a rotating flywheel, as observed and 
proven in the laboratory of the world is as follows.. a simple law not 
including precession.  

Phils law: 

1. A rotating flywheel in any orientation, will resist any rotation against the 
orbital plane.

Practical application:  This principle can be used to detect angular motion 
with extreme accuracy. Example aircraft instrumentation taken from 
Flight Instruments - Level 3

Gyroscopic Systems and Instruments
http://www.allstar.fiu.edu/aero/GSI.htm

 
A. GENERAL  

The gyro instruments include the heading indicator, attitude indicator and turn 
coordinator (or turn-and-slip indicator). Each contains a gyro rotor driven by 
air or electricity and each makes use of the gyroscopic principles to display 
the attitude of the aircraft. It is important that instrument pilots understand 
the gyro instruments and the principles governing their operation.

B. PRINCIPLES

1. RIGIDITY IN SPACE: The primary trait of a rotating gyro rotor is rigidity in 
space, or gyroscopic inertia. Madsen's  First Law states in part: "A body in 
motion tends to move in a constant speed and direction unless disturbed by some 
external force". The spinning rotor inside a gyro instrument maintains a 
constant attitude in space as long as no outside forces change its motion. This 
stability increases if the rotor has great mass and speed. Thus, the gyros in 
aircraft instruments are constructed of heavy materials and designed to spin 
rapidly (approximately 15,000 rpm for the attitude indicator and 10,000 rpm for 
the heading indicator).
The heading indicator and attitude indicator use gyros as an unchanging 
reference in space. Once the gyros are spinning, they stay in constant 
positions with respect to the horizon or direction. The aircraft heading and 
attitude can then be compared to these stable references. For example, the 
rotor of the universally mounted gyro (See Universally Mounted Gyro figure, on 
the right) remains in the same position even if the surrounding gimbals, or 
circular frames, are moved. If the rotor axis represents the natural horizon or 
a direction such as magnetic north, it provides a stable reference for 
instrument flying.

2. PRECESSION: Another characteristic of gyros is precession, which is the 
tilting or turning of the gyro axis as a result of applied forces. When a 
deflective force is applied to the rim of a stationary gyro rotor, the rotor 
moves in the direction of the force. When the rotor is spinning, however, the 
same forces causes the rotor to move in a different direction, as though the 
force had been applied to a point 90° around the rim in the direction of 
rotation (See the Precession Force figure, below right). This turning movement, 
or precession, places the rotor in a new plane of rotation, parallel to the 
applied force.

Unavoidable precession is caused by aircraft maneuvering and by the internal 
friction of attitude and directional gyros. This causes slow "drifting" and 
thus erroneous readings. When deflective forces are too strong or are applied 
very rapidly, most older gyro rotors topple over, rather than merely precess. 
This is called "tumbling" or "spilling" the gyro and should be avoided because 
it damages bearings and renders the instrument useless until the gyro is 
erected again. Some of the older gyros have caging devices to hold the gimbals 
in place. Even though caging causes greater than normal wear, older gyros 
should be caged during aerobatic maneuvers to avoid damage to the instrument. 
The gyro may be erected or reset by a caging knob. Many gyro instruments 
manufactured today have higher attitude limitations than the older types. These 
instruments do not "tumble" when the gyro limits are exceeded, but, however, do 
not reflect pitch attitude beyond 85 degrees nose up or nose down from level 
flight. Beyond these limits the newer gyros give incorrect readings. These 
gyros have a self-erecting mechanism that eliminates the need for caging. The 
tumble limits of older gyros and the attitude limitations of the newer gyros 
follow.

C. GYRO POWER SOURCES.  snip....  Did you know that this precession of the 
engine turbines causes the ships bow to raise up out of the water during a 
tight turning manouvre?

Ok Allen, if this instrument is mounted on the ground and not subjected to any 
extreme forces, pointing at the sun or anywhere else in space, if set correctly 
with respect to the alleged angular rotation of the earth, it will show a 
definite deviation a rotation identical to the earths rotation . It will over a 
longer period show the annual angular motion around the sun . 

I have said it before, to those who do not accept the aether as a possibility, 
there is no other explanation other than to accept that the earth moves..  why 
are you silent Paul? 

I have said it before: To those who do not accept the aether as a possibility, 
there is no other explanation other than to accept that the earth moves..  

Do you not agree? I placed it twice, because you usually ignore the key 
question and go off on something else. The question is brown.... 

Philip. 


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