[geocentrism] Re: Regner concedes?

  • From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:30:14 +1000

Thats ok Jack, but don't lose the faith, its just a different battleground. 

Philip. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jack Lewis 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 6:44 PM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Regner concedes?


  Thank you Philip,
  This is not a subject I followed and therefore know nothing about. However I 
will consult those who know more about it than me - Neville perhaps or the 
Roberts'.

  Jack
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: philip madsen 
    To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 11:34 PM
    Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Regner concedes?


    Repeat for Jack and Allen;

    Regner asked the question if you all remember, what happens to a spinning 
bicycle wheel, if you try to turn it sideways..  

    In Newtonian physics thats the proof of the HC system.

    Newtons laws are demonstrable and satisfactory for dealing with motion, if 
not the reason why, at least the properties as experienced. 

    Hold the axel firmly  with wheel edge in front of your nose whilst the 
wheel is spinning rapidly. Now try to rotate your body. 

    A spinning flywheel is stable and resists angular rotation around its axis 
of rotation . You can test this principle as Regner suggested. . 

    The bicycle depends on this principle to work. 

    A bicycle wheel that is suspended vertically and powered to rotate 
continuously, with the axel pointing east- west. in a frame having no 
resistance to rotation in any direction , (set in gymbol bearings) will 
maintain it orientation vertically for ever, except , because the earth is 
rotating one revolution per day, this frame will not turn with the motion of 
the earth. 

    Consequently if you are looking at this wheel edge on from the North, you 
will see the frame with the wheel turn slowly clockwise , making one complete 
turn per day.  If it was vertical on 12 oclock at noon, it will be pointing at 
1 an hour later, and so on. 

    If the world was not rotating with any angular movement, this flywheel 
would remain in the vertical orientation . 

    We have known about, and discussed this here for years, why do we keep 
running away from it? Long range ballistic missile computers  using inertial 
guidance systems must program in this rotation to stay on course..  


    Philip. 


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Allen Daves 
      To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 7:37 AM
      Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Regner concedes?


      uh yea ..im at a loss here to phil........how does that prove HC again..?

      Jack Lewis <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
        OK Philip,
        What's the relevance, please explain?

        Jack
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: philip madsen 
          To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 9:10 PM
          Subject: [geocentrism] Regner concedes?


          If Regner conceded and accepted that the geocentric proof of 
geocentrism  Jack asked Paul? 

          Jack, Regner never will concede such a thing..  

          He asked the question if you all remember, what happens to a spinning 
bicycle wheel, if you try to turn it sideways..  

          In Newtonian physics thats the proof of the HC system. 

          I told you all this yesterday..

          We need to fault Newtons laws and prove it, to win this debate..  I'm 
hoping Robert with GWW can do that. 

          Philip..  





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