[duxhelp] Re: Shortcut preferences

  • From: "Ian Robinson" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:17:22 +0100

Hi Dave,

Initially, I did the same as yourself, but obviously that had an effect on
the rest of DBT which other users might not want.  Hence, I think it would
be better if the JAWS configuration had "Announce Group Name" checked for
each verbosity level.

Cheers.

Ian

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Durber" <dadurber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 12:11 AM
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Shortcut preferences


> When I checked out your suggestion, I first of all found that the
> verbosity level was set to "intermediate".
>
> I set the verbosity to the "beginner" level, saved the configuration
> and switched to DBT.
>
> I opened the document menu, and then the Page Number... dialog box,
> and hay presto, JAWS spoke both the line above with the prompt on it
> and the line underneath stating which of the five choices in the combo
> box was checked.
>
> So, before shipping the JAWS scripts, please make sure that the
> verbosity level is set to the "beginner" level.
>
> Sincerely:
>
> Dave Durber
>
> On Thu, 27 May 2004 23:01:36 +0100, you wrote:
>
> >Hi Christian,
> >
> >With JAWS set to do a maximum search for labels (which is the default),
it
> >will check both to the left and above a control.
> >
> >If you want the labels announced for radio buttons in a group box, such
as
> >Documents/page Numbers, try the following.
> >
> >Go in to the JAWS Configuration Manager, Settings, Verbosity, and make
sure
> >that "Announce Control Group Name" is checked.
> >
> >I've just tried it here with JAWS version 5 and it works just fine.
> >
> >cheers.
> >
> >Ian
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Christian Coudert" <ch.coudert@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 5:02 PM
> >Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Shortcut preferences
> >
> >
> >> Hello Peter, Emile and all:
> >>
> >> I think the problem mentioned by Emile is due to the fact that the
label
> >of the
> >> fields in "Shortcut preference" is placed above the field, on an upper
> >line;
> >> Jaws (Eloquence or other synthesizer) pronounces the strings inside the
> >field
> >> but not the label in the upper line.
> >> This is similar for:
> >> Document / Page numbering:
> >> The labels "Page numbering for even pages", "Page numbering for odd
pages"
> >...
> >> are not talked by the synthesizer, one has to join Jaws cursor and PC
> >cursor and
> >> move the arrow up to the previous line to check which is the
corresponding
> >> label.
> >>
> >> The problem does not exist for Find or Replace because the label is
just
> >at the
> >> left of the focus, on the same line.
> >>
> >> Emile, I think that in those situations your Jaws script should correct
> >this
> >> deficiency... (Sorry to give you more work).
> >>
> >> All the best.
> >>
> >> Christian, Parisian.
> >> ----- Message d'origine -----
> >> De : "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> À : <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Envoyé : jeudi 27 mai 2004 17:14
> >> Objet : [duxhelp] Re: Shortcut preferences
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello Émile,
> >>
> >> You report having problems associating labels with edit controls only
in
> >the
> >> Shortcut Preferences dialog, but no other dialog.  In this I assume
that
> >you
> >> include the Edit, Replace dialog.
> >>
> >> What puzzles me is that none of our dialogs uses any particular
technique
> >> other than hopefully-logical layout to cause a screen reader to
associate
> >a
> >> label with an edit field.  The layout of the Edit, Replace dialog and
the
> >> Shortcut Preferences dialog is quite similar.  But the labels in the
Edit,
> >> Replace dialog end with a colon, whereas those in the Shortcut
Preferences
> >> dialog do not.  Perhaps this is a context clue to the screen reader.
Does
> >> this odd theory sound familiar to you (or to anybody else who has read
> >this
> >> far)?
> >>
> >> - Peter
> >>
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