[duxhelp] Re: Shortcut preferences

  • From: "Jack Maartman" <jmaartman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 15:35:15 -0700

Window-eyes seems remarkably free from problems--Don has configured a good
set of set-files, that work transparently.  However as I am not embossing
and won't be able to work on the Braille lite generic embosser, until my
notetaker gets a clean bill of health, I won't have the ability to
transparently test Window-eyes with DBT.  If there are any new window-eyes
users on the list, I think we should do what we can to make Wineyes as
compatible as possible.  As far as JFW goes, "no speaka de program velly
well.

Jack


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 9:08 AM
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Shortcut preferences


> Hello Christian:
>
> I observe that the Find dialog is set up as you suggest -- with a label
next
> to the edit field.  But I also observe that the Replace dialog contains
> labels above edit fields, as in the Shortcut preferences dialog.  This is
> why I suggested adding a colon.
>
> Perhaps the same would help in the Document/Page Numbering dialog.
>
> I prefer this solution, if it works, to any JAWS scripting work, largely
> because it is likely to help with WindowEyes, Dolphin's various products,
> and other screen readers too.
>
> - Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
> Behalf Of Christian Coudert
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 12:02 PM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Shortcut preferences
>
> Hello Peter, Emile and all:
>
> I think the problem mentioned by Emile is due to the fact that the label
of
> the fields in "Shortcut preference" is placed above the field, on an upper
> line; Jaws (Eloquence or other synthesizer) pronounces the strings inside
> the field but not the label in the upper line.
> This is similar for:
> Document / Page numbering:
> The labels "Page numbering for even pages", "Page numbering for odd pages"
> ...
> are not talked by the synthesizer, one has to join Jaws cursor and PC
cursor
> and move the arrow up to the previous line to check which is the
> corresponding label.
>
> The problem does not exist for Find or Replace because the label is just
at
> the left of the focus, on the same line.
>
> Emile, I think that in those situations your Jaws script should correct
this
> deficiency... (Sorry to give you more work).
>
> All the best.
>
> Christian, Parisian.
> ----- Message d'origine -----
> De : "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx> À : <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Envoyé
> : jeudi 27 mai 2004 17:14 Objet : [duxhelp] Re: Shortcut preferences
>
>
> Hello Émile,
>
> You report having problems associating labels with edit controls only in
the
> Shortcut Preferences dialog, but no other dialog.  In this I assume that
you
> include the Edit, Replace dialog.
>
> What puzzles me is that none of our dialogs uses any particular technique
> other than hopefully-logical layout to cause a screen reader to associate
a
> label with an edit field.  The layout of the Edit, Replace dialog and the
> Shortcut Preferences dialog is quite similar.  But the labels in the Edit,
> Replace dialog end with a colon, whereas those in the Shortcut Preferences
> dialog do not.  Perhaps this is a context clue to the screen reader.  Does
> this odd theory sound familiar to you (or to anybody else who has read
this
> far)?
>
> - Peter
>
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