[duxhelp] Re: Shortcut preferences

  • From: Dave Durber <dadurber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 19:11:04 -0400

When I checked out your suggestion, I first of all found that the
verbosity level was set to "intermediate".

I set the verbosity to the "beginner" level, saved the configuration
and switched to DBT.

I opened the document menu, and then the Page Number... dialog box,
and hay presto, JAWS spoke both the line above with the prompt on it
and the line underneath stating which of the five choices in the combo
box was checked.

So, before shipping the JAWS scripts, please make sure that the
verbosity level is set to the "beginner" level.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

On Thu, 27 May 2004 23:01:36 +0100, you wrote:

>Hi Christian,
>
>With JAWS set to do a maximum search for labels (which is the default), it
>will check both to the left and above a control.
>
>If you want the labels announced for radio buttons in a group box, such as
>Documents/page Numbers, try the following.
>
>Go in to the JAWS Configuration Manager, Settings, Verbosity, and make sure
>that "Announce Control Group Name" is checked.
>
>I've just tried it here with JAWS version 5 and it works just fine.
>
>cheers.
>
>Ian
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Christian Coudert" <ch.coudert@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 5:02 PM
>Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Shortcut preferences
>
>
>> Hello Peter, Emile and all:
>>
>> I think the problem mentioned by Emile is due to the fact that the label
>of the
>> fields in "Shortcut preference" is placed above the field, on an upper
>line;
>> Jaws (Eloquence or other synthesizer) pronounces the strings inside the
>field
>> but not the label in the upper line.
>> This is similar for:
>> Document / Page numbering:
>> The labels "Page numbering for even pages", "Page numbering for odd pages"
>...
>> are not talked by the synthesizer, one has to join Jaws cursor and PC
>cursor and
>> move the arrow up to the previous line to check which is the corresponding
>> label.
>>
>> The problem does not exist for Find or Replace because the label is just
>at the
>> left of the focus, on the same line.
>>
>> Emile, I think that in those situations your Jaws script should correct
>this
>> deficiency... (Sorry to give you more work).
>>
>> All the best.
>>
>> Christian, Parisian.
>> ----- Message d'origine -----
>> De : "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> À : <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Envoyé : jeudi 27 mai 2004 17:14
>> Objet : [duxhelp] Re: Shortcut preferences
>>
>>
>> Hello Émile,
>>
>> You report having problems associating labels with edit controls only in
>the
>> Shortcut Preferences dialog, but no other dialog.  In this I assume that
>you
>> include the Edit, Replace dialog.
>>
>> What puzzles me is that none of our dialogs uses any particular technique
>> other than hopefully-logical layout to cause a screen reader to associate
>a
>> label with an edit field.  The layout of the Edit, Replace dialog and the
>> Shortcut Preferences dialog is quite similar.  But the labels in the Edit,
>> Replace dialog end with a colon, whereas those in the Shortcut Preferences
>> dialog do not.  Perhaps this is a context clue to the screen reader.  Does
>> this odd theory sound familiar to you (or to anybody else who has read
>this
>> far)?
>>
>> - Peter
>>
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