[duxhelp] Re: Shortcut preferences

  • From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 12:41:58 -0400

Huzzah!

For what it's worth, the DBT_CODESEDIT class isn't new.  We're improving it
a great deal for DBT 10.5, but the window class has been in place since DBT
10.1.  So Caryn's tip should help current users too.

- Peter 

-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Caryn Navy
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 12:28 PM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Shortcut preferences

Hello all.  I just made an adjustment in my JAWS settings that seems to fix
this problem.  I brought up the Global settings menu - Shortcut preferences
dialog.  With the highlight on the first item in the Shortcut preferences
dialog, I brought up the JAWS utility "Window class reassign."  This brings
up a dialog about the new class called "DBT_CODESEDIT" (the capitalization
of CODESEDIT messes up the pronunciation).  In the next field, called
"Assign to:" I arrowed down to the choice called Edit.  Then I pushed the
button labeled "Assign new class."  That takes care of saving a revised
dbtw.jcf file.

After doing that, I found that the labels are spoken in the Shortcut
preferences dialog.

This change will be in the next set of JAWS script files.

Sincerely,
Caryn


-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ian Robinson
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 4:48 AM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Shortcut preferences


Hi Christian,

That's really strange.  Especially as Dave put a message on this list saying
that switching the JAWS Verbosity to "Beginner" level fixed the problem for
him.

Cheers.

Ian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christian Coudert" <ch.coudert@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 8:26 AM
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Shortcut preferences


> Hello Ian:
>
> I have just verified: "Announce Control Group Name" is checked and I 
> have
made
> the test both with JFW 4.51 and JFW 5.00. But the result is negative...
>
> All the best. Greetings from Paris!
>
> Christian
> ----- Message d'origine -----
> De : "Ian Robinson" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> À : 
> <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Envoyé : vendredi 28 mai 2004 00:01 Objet : 
> [duxhelp] Re: Shortcut preferences
>
>
> Hi Christian,
>
> With JAWS set to do a maximum search for labels (which is the 
> default), it will check both to the left and above a control.
>
> If you want the labels announced for radio buttons in a group box, 
> such as Documents/page Numbers, try the following.
>
> Go in to the JAWS Configuration Manager, Settings, Verbosity, and make
sure
> that "Announce Control Group Name" is checked.
>
> I've just tried it here with JAWS version 5 and it works just fine.
>
> cheers.
>
> Ian
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christian Coudert" <ch.coudert@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 5:02 PM
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Shortcut preferences
>
>
> > Hello Peter, Emile and all:
> >
> > I think the problem mentioned by Emile is due to the fact that the 
> > label
> of the
> > fields in "Shortcut preference" is placed above the field, on an 
> > upper
> line;
> > Jaws (Eloquence or other synthesizer) pronounces the strings inside 
> > the
> field
> > but not the label in the upper line.
> > This is similar for:
> > Document / Page numbering:
> > The labels "Page numbering for even pages", "Page numbering for odd
pages"
> ...
> > are not talked by the synthesizer, one has to join Jaws cursor and 
> > PC
> cursor and
> > move the arrow up to the previous line to check which is the
corresponding
> > label.
> >
> > The problem does not exist for Find or Replace because the label is 
> > just
> at the
> > left of the focus, on the same line.
> >
> > Emile, I think that in those situations your Jaws script should 
> > correct
> this
> > deficiency... (Sorry to give you more work).
> >
> > All the best.
> >
> > Christian, Parisian.
> > ----- Message d'origine -----
> > De : "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx> À : <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> > Envoyé : jeudi 27 mai 2004 17:14 Objet : [duxhelp] Re: Shortcut 
> > preferences
> >
> >
> > Hello Émile,
> >
> > You report having problems associating labels with edit controls 
> > only in
> the
> > Shortcut Preferences dialog, but no other dialog.  In this I assume 
> > that
> you
> > include the Edit, Replace dialog.
> >
> > What puzzles me is that none of our dialogs uses any particular
technique
> > other than hopefully-logical layout to cause a screen reader to
associate
> a
> > label with an edit field.  The layout of the Edit, Replace dialog 
> > and
the
> > Shortcut Preferences dialog is quite similar.  But the labels in the
Edit,
> > Replace dialog end with a colon, whereas those in the Shortcut
Preferences
> > dialog do not.  Perhaps this is a context clue to the screen reader.
Does
> > this odd theory sound familiar to you (or to anybody else who has 
> > read
> this
> > far)?
> >
> > - Peter
> >
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