[ddots-l] Re: Your Vote for most Accessible Drum Machine
- From: "Bob Reid" <info@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 08:35:09 -0500
Hi D!J!X!. Thank you for that explanation. If I understand you correctly,
presets are usually accessible on most work stations using the ins files unless
extra work has been done to make the rest of the unit accessible such as the
Motif.
Bob.
From: D!J!X!
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 10:15 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Your Vote for most Accessible Drum Machine
With an instrument definition, you can use the sounds from the workstation with
sonar, but that’s about it. You can’t edit other parameters that are not
standard MIDI ones. With the motif, I’m talking about using the unit from its
controls and physical buttons manipulating screens, making settings, changing
things, editing instruments, creating your own etc. You can also sequence on it
if you so desire. All with some great degree of accessibility. To add more to
it, you can use John Melas’s motif tools/editors to edit various, almost all
parameters of the unit, right from your computer, and with accessibility;
according to his website,, John actually has updated all editors to be
accessible!
This for example means the following; when you load a voice from a keyboard
using sonar ins file, allot of time you get the voice with no special effects,
just the basic reverb, but no special effects that might normally be found on
the voice. In the case of the motif, you don’t get the arps that go to each
voice either. With John’s mix editor, you can have each project hold mix
settings for the motif, which are recalled when you open the project, so you
don’t have to reassign effects or mix settings. This gets you the full sound
voices in sonar, well, as many as the effects section of the keyboard can
handle.
I don’t know how other workstations are, or how their use with sonar is, I’ve
only used the motif in studio, but have used a korg triton and n364 synth as
well as a few others from them, and the menus can be a pain, and many things
on screen to remember. That’s why I like the motif systems, because the screens
are split into sections and subsections.
Anyways, to answer the question, no, ins files don’t let you control all
features of the workstation, mainly just deal with the instrument on the unit,
such as telling sonar what midi program change messages to send the unit to get
a certain sound, such as bank 3, program 50 for a guitar.
HTh, D!J!X!
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Bob Reid
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 11:08 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Your Vote for most Accessible Drum Machine
Late to the discussion. Can we not control an inaccessible work station in
Sonar using instrument deffinitions? What about the Roland stage pianos such
as the RD series?
Bob.
From: D!J!X!
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 2:37 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Your Vote for most Accessible Drum Machine
Mike, the motif 8 (first gen), motif es8 (2nd gen), motif xs8 (third gen) and
motif xf8 (4th gen) are all 88 key keyboards. The 7’s are 76 keys, and the 6’s
are 61 keys.
They each get better with each new generation, the xf being the top of the line
right now, with flash memory expandibility, so you don’t have to reload
samples/sounds every time you power up the keyboard, virtual modeled Yamaha
effects, pattern sequencer and regular sequencer, performances (almost like
styles), master setups for live gigs, and a plethora of sounds! They also have
integrated sampling capabilities, you can edit just about anything on the
entire workstation, either through the keyboard panel/controls or with John
melas’s accessible editors, use it in studio or live… They are awesome
instruments, and best of all, very accessible and easy to use.
Regards, D!J!X!
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mike Tyo
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 9:04 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Your Vote for most Accessible Drum Machine
Excellent! Is that an 88-note keyboard? I'm not familiar with the Motif line in
terms of models, etc.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Steel
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 19:47
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Your Vote for most Accessible Drum Machine
I have the Motif es8 and I love it. I use it as my midi controller when
programming my superior drummer parts and to control my grooveboxes too.
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