Sometimes when I scan a book in kes and then try to convert it to rtf, the pagination doesn't work--most usually there are too many pages in the rtf file. That is the only time I submit in kes, which I do in preference to having the page numbers incorrect. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cindy Ray To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:23 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: RTF format. Maybe there is something I don't understand, but whyt does anybody have to submit in a Kurzweil or an ARK format. It would seem the chances to get your books validated would be increased. I think about everybody has .rtf capabilities. Cindy Lou--Think Pink