Jill, Cindy and others, Have you ever had to write a paper about a book or quote a line from a book in a paper or foot note? Have you ever wanted a friend to read something inside of a book or story? Did you want to find a line a poetry and did not know where to look and asked a friend? All the answers to these would have to know where, on what line on what page of which book you would find the quotation or information and that is why many of us want the page number in the book to be the same as the page number of the scan so you can find the line or quotation. It is easier with Plays as one cites act, scene, and lines. Page numbers become irrelevant. But not so with books. And searching for words or phrases will give too many possible answers and you can spend hours looking for the one you want. I would rather have someone validate my scans - though I validate them myself before submitting them - so that the final copy will be usable for any Bookshare Member with or without sight who needs our books for whatever reason. I have to magnify the books I scan and/or validate at least by 2 but the page numbers are the same whether you listen to the reader or listen and follow with your eyes or whatever combination any reader will know where to go for whatever they are seeking in the book and the numbers will not change from one reader to another. That's why the page numbers are so important. Kurzweil lets you make the page number on the page match the number on the count and all of the preliminary material which is numbered separately with roman numerals are Identifies as "preliminary page number whatever". I recently read a book which had 3 different page numbers but as long as I could find the number on the page - frequently before or after the page heading - I could know where I was and how far I had to go to the page I wanted regardless of where the search engine took me. Scanners and validators are not editing books just for themselves but for any member who wants to read them for whatever reason and with whatever disability. Amy ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill O'Connell To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 11:23 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: RTF format. Cindy, You're absolutely right. I have a feeling that the people who do this simply don't know how to convert the file to RTF. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cindy Ray To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 4:23 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: RTF format. Maybe there is something I don't understand, but whyt does anybody have to submit in a Kurzweil or an ARK format. It would seem the chances to get your books validated would be increased. I think about everybody has .rtf capabilities. Cindy Lou--Think Pink ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.8/974 - Release Date: 8/26/2007 4:34 PM