[bksvol-discuss] Re: RTF format.

  • From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:16:13 -0500

What I am trying to say here, though, is that if you do have print pages, 
aren't they still going to be on there. Let's say the file was scanned, it had 
100 print pages and all of the pages had a sequential page number 1, 2, 3, 4, 
5, 6, ... ..., on it, printed, scanned, etc., would not that number still be on 
your pages and you could search for that number if nothing else? 


Cindy Lou--Think Pink
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Amy Goldring Tajalli 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:32 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: RTF format.


  Cindy Lou,

  No, a book does not have to be in rtf format when it goes back to Bookshare.  
Bookshare accepts books in .kes and at least to others plus RTF - I think one 
is openbook but I don't know the abbreviation. 

   In books I  work on in WordPerfect I have to use RTF and it has its own 
numbering system beginning with the first blank or printed page including all 
pages of any kind that are included.  The book's internal numbering system may 
begin with no numbers or roman numerals - especially if there are introductions 
and other preliminary material - and then pages which are not numbered and can 
only be figured out when counting back from the first page with an Arabic 
numeral. The first Arabic numbered page in the book I am currently working on 
is 3 and if I count back I find that the page one, which becomes my "user 
numbered pages #1" is the Title page of the first Story AKA chapter and the 
blank page is 2 so the page 3 is the first page of the text of the story. If I 
use the kes numbering which is what I have just described, the is a difference 
in pagination of 7 pages but when it becomes part of the collection a reader 
can always "go to page" and put in the page number of the text as it is in the 
book  and  go to that page.  It may not seem important but if you left off on 
page 1150 and are reading the Bookshare copy, if you have any other copy of the 
book than the one I scanned and validated you could be as much as 30 pages off. 
If, however, it is the book I worked on, you will either get the page you 
wanted or know you are x number of pages of - in the case of the book I am 
thinking of you will know the difference  is 16 pages throughout.

  Now you are studying religious books many of which deserve the name of tomes. 
Luckily, whatever edition of the Old or New Testaments or the Koran you are 
reading you can always go to book, chapter and verse so it is easy to find what 
you want. Now if you are reading something else it may not be that easy. 
Luckily, if you are reading a book in Kurzweil, even if it is a Bookshare book, 
it will always open where you closed it last unlike HTML books read in some 
other programs like Windows Internet Explorer which always takes you  to the 
beginning.  I don't have a screen reader so I am learning to read anything I 
have in my files in Kurzweil.

  Now forgive my but my tuxedo cat is being insistent and either I stop typing 
or he will start.  I hope I have explained thoroughly but not too much so.

  Amy      
    ----- Originsal Message ----- 
    From: Cindy Ray 
    To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 4:21 PM
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: RTF format.


    Amy, I don't know if I completely understand what you are asking. It won't 
matter what format it is in. If it doesn't have page numbers, you won't know 
what the page number is. If you are scanning and get page numbers, then you 
should have true page numbers. Now, I haven't used any Bookshare books for my 
studies because I have scanned all of my own, so maybe if I find myself in a 
position to use one or two sometime I will understand. But the fact is, the 
book has to be in RTF Format in the end when it goes back to Bookshare as a 
validated book. Yes, I am studying in seminary where I have to write a number 
of papers, so I don't know what you are asking.

    Cindy Lou



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