Jamie, The only problem with submitting a book in kes is that it has to be validated by someone with kes which means it may be on Step 1 for a long time as more validators can work with an rtf file than those who have Kurzweil. Even Kurzweil users can work on rtf files though it is not, as they will tell you, primarily a word processing program and relies on other such programs - so they say but when I am scanning in Kurzweil I have not problem correcting the scans without converting them to rtf or anything else. It is just with rtf files which I cannot always correct in Kurzweil. I can insert page divisions in the scanning mode better than in the plain rtf file and my word perfect program cannot insert blank pages and cannot multiply arbitrarily with kes files even rtf files in kes. Sounds weird but whatever works. Amy ----- Original Message ----- From: Jamie Yates To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:31 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: RTF format. That's what I thought, too, Mayrie, that the upload from the validator had to be in RTF, which was why I asked the question about KES having to be converted to RTF either after scanning or after validating. But Amy says Bookshare converts KES to html so I don't know. I was just thinking that it would be better to convert to RTF after scanning so that anything that went wrong with it could be fixed before the validator uploaded it. After that there isn't anything anybody can do about problems except rescan the book. Jamie in Michigan Currently Reading - Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - J.K. Rowling Labor Day Sale at Bass Pro Shops, click here