[bksvol-discuss] Re: Page Stripping Update
- From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:40:38 -0400
You know one obvious solution, from my stand point and a way to please
everyone, is to offer one set of files Braille and daisy, with headers
stripped, and one without. So that those of us wanting page numbers for
research can have them. I suspect it could be done, as most of the process
is automatic. But what do I know.
It could pose a space issue, but again they are compressed, and ... just a
solution that would please everyone.
This of course is of course, if the strip on download option, you know
doesn't work, or they don't come up with a way to add page numbers print
page numbers to the Braille files as well as Daisy.
Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden
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Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
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From: "Jana Jackson" <jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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LOL!! Sarah, that's funny! Yes, it's fine for us to post our wishes for
K1K or any other program here. We just can't discuss undisclosed
developments that may be known only to developers and beta testers.
Goodness, such secrecy! <LOL> Take care!
Jana
----- Original Message -----
From: Sarah Van Oosterwijck
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Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:27 AM
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I won't talk about my wishes if you were told Kurzweil users should not,
but I am not governed by any non-disclosure agreement, since I am not a beta
tester and have no other affiliation with Kurzweil Educational Systems. :-)
Fortunately it is a company that welcomes input from anyone with the desire
to give it.
Also remember that the big improvement I mentioned, about binding shadow,
was posted to this list by the company and therefore ceased to be a secret
quite a while ago. If I'm in trouble for mentioning Kurzweil 10, then I'm
sorry, but it is hard for an intelligent person who had math classes all the
way up to 10th grade to not see the likelihood that after version 9 comes
version 10. LOL
Sarah Van Oosterwijck
http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity
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From: Guido Corona
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Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:18 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page Stripping Update
Children, I should not have even posted publicly that I was going to
make a feature suggestion for K. Please do not discuss any feature that may
or may not be currently in development in any software. This is a public
forum and beta discussions are not public. They are typically governed by
Non Disclosure Agreements.
Let's all be good.
Thanks,
Guido
Guido Dante Corona
IBM Accessibility Center, Austin Tx.
Research Division,
Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
"Sarah Van Oosterwijck" <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Thank you, those suggestions would be very much appreciated.
Kurzweil is already working on the number one scanning issue, which is
binding shadow removal. Now if they can create a tool to get rid of problem
number two, header/page number problems, I'll be one thrilled person.
I talked to Stephen Baum at Closing the Gap last year, and suggested the
addition of more advanced search features. I would like it to allow you to
turn on an option to allow for regular expression searches. Who knows if
that will happen, but it sounded like searching for page breaks would be
possible, and that would help with some junk removal procedures. It just
isn't likely that we could search for blank pages by looking for two page
breaks in a row, because of the way Kurzweil works by loading one page at a
time, but That doesn't seem that important to me anyway. :-)
In my dreams I would be able to make the macro for cleaning up books
that I am trying to make in Word for Kurzweil 10 instead. <BG> I expect
that procedure to stay strictly in my dreams, though.
Sarah Van Oosterwijck
http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity
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From: Guido Corona
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Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:31 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page Stripping Update
Yes, it would be nice if K1K could convert Daisy page headers into KES
page headers. Then they could be read/ignored/stripped by the user at will.
I will suggest this to K.
Guido
Guido Dante Corona
IBM Accessibility Center, Austin Tx.
Research Division,
Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
"Kellie Hartmann" <hart0421@xxxxxxx>
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Hi Guido,
Thanks for the info about not being able to access Daisy tags with
Kurzweil. That's what I was beginning to think, but I wanted to be sure I
wasn't missing something. So basically what this means is that the page
numbers aren't even always accessible if someone is using the unconverted
Daisy format unless they're using an official Daisy reader. Well, the one
available from Bookshare that's free seems to have more bugs than an ant
farm, and the rest of them cost money, often a fortune. Apparently page
numbers are a luxury good.
Kellie
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