Eileen is correct. It is a red-shoulder. Red-taileds do not have white/pale tail banding on the upper side at any age (juvenile red-taileds have thin dark-bands on a brown tail). Mark Mark Monroe Louisville, KY On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Sean Ward <sean.et.cetera@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > I'm torn between juve red-tailed and juve red-shouldered. > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Jeff Finn <finnunit19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > This guy flew down to my pond yesterday being tormented by crows. I > could > > use a little help on this one's ID. I realize the picture could be > better. > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/44459766@N02/8655769013/in/photostream > > > > > > > > > > ================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBERS============== > > > > When posting on BIRDKY, please close posts with > > your first and last name and your address (city or county). > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > > > To post on BIRDKY, send e-mail to: > > birdky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > > > Visit the KOS website at > > http://www.biology.eku.edu/kos/default.htm > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > > > Visit the KOS Photo Page to view photos of birds recently > > sighted in Kentucky: > > http://www.flickr.com/groups/kentucky_ornithological_society/pool > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > > > To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: > > birdky-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject line. > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > > > BIRDKY List Manager: Gary Ritchison. > > E-mail: gary.ritchison@xxxxxxx > > > > > > > ================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBERS============== > > When posting on BIRDKY, please close posts with > your first and last name and your address (city or county). > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > To post on BIRDKY, send e-mail to: > birdky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > Visit the KOS website at > http://www.biology.eku.edu/kos/default.htm > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > Visit the KOS Photo Page to view photos of birds recently > sighted in Kentucky: > http://www.flickr.com/groups/kentucky_ornithological_society/pool > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: > birdky-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject line. > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > BIRDKY List Manager: Gary Ritchison. > E-mail: gary.ritchison@xxxxxxx > > ================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBERS============== When posting on BIRDKY, please close posts with your first and last name and your address (city or county). * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post on BIRDKY, send e-mail to: birdky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Visit the KOS website at http://www.biology.eku.edu/kos/default.htm * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Visit the KOS Photo Page to view photos of birds recently sighted in Kentucky: http://www.flickr.com/groups/kentucky_ornithological_society/pool * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: birdky-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject line. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * BIRDKY List Manager: Gary Ritchison. E-mail: gary.ritchison@xxxxxxx