Wendy Last I heard, there was some consideration being given to include definitions in future software updates. At this time I don't know if it's just in the discussion stage or being worked on. It would be nice. I would like to use them, but the way things are now I'm afraid I'll do something stupid and trash my needle case. Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "wl solomonson" <wlsolomonson@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 9:14 AM Subject: [amayausers] Re: HoopTech question 6.5x7 window > Frank & Ed & any other Melco person out there, > Why doesn't Melco resolve the issue by endorsing HoopTech and providing > the > hoop setup definitions like they do for Fast Frames? Seems to me this > would > prevent the needlecase problem as well as giving those of us in the > industry > an opportunity to use the HoopTech and prevent repetitive stress on our > hands from hooping those "hard to hoop" items. Or is there another reason > this in not done? I'm going to call and ask why, hopefully someone can > give > me a logical answer. > Wendy > Itchin' To Stitch > MN > >>From: "frank davis" <fadavis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Subject: [amayausers] Re: HoopTech question 6.5x7 window >>Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 21:47:30 -0500 >> >>Wendy >>Melco strongly recommends against Hoop Tech. I was in Denver last week >>and >>a machine came in that slammed the needle case with a Hoop Tech. The >>needle >>case had to be replaced. $2100 plus labor. Be careful using it. >> >>Frank >>Force Ten Embroidery >>Amaya Tech & owner >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Itchin To Stitch" <itchin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:43 AM >>Subject: [amayausers] HoopTech question 6.5x7 window >> >> >> > Ed, >> > Thanks for the words of advice. I actually know another Amaya user that >> > had >> > the needle case "accident". Some how he was able to fix it himself. >> > Because >> > of his words of warning I am extremely careful when I use the HoopTech >>on >> > my >> > machine thus my request for the offsets on the large window. I don't >>want >> > to >> > make a mistake and calculate something that isn't right and oops, there >> > goes >> > the needlecase. The hoop setup directions in the Amaya user manual are >>too >> > vague for me and I guess if what you say is acurate no one at Melco >> > will >> > be >> > willing to help me either. Unfortunately this happens an awful lot when >> > consumers make an expensive purchase, there is always a loophole so the >> > company doesn't have to stand behind a product. I guess this is where >>the >> > buyer beware warning comes in to play. No one responded to my request >> > for >> > the offsets so I'm stuck using a hoop for this job and that is another >> > issue >> > altogether! >> > Wendy >> > Itchin' To Stitch >> > MN >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "E. Orantes" <e3m@xxxxxxx> >> > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:02 AM >> > Subject: [amayausers] Re: 2 questions >> > >> > >> >> Wendy, >> >> Although the HoopTech (yellow) hooping system is a wonderful tool, you >> > must >> >> be very aware of what you are about to embark upon. By no means is >>this >> > to >> >> scare you into not using it but be very cautious when you do... >> >> First off, I have heard that this Hooptech system (and any knock-off's >> > like >> >> it) are not authorized Melco hoops and if any damage results to your >> >> Amaya >> >> because of it, you will instantly void your warranty. (Please verify >>for >> >> yourself with Melco as this is simply what I heard). >> >> Now, what damage am I speaking of???? If I remember correctly, that >> >> hooping system has a "Y" offset of -3 inches. What this means is that >>if >> >> you don't set up the hoops for this system correctly, or possibly >>forget >> > to >> >> tell your Amaya you are using a hoop with the correct settings, then >>what >> >> could possibly happen, and has happened to a few people I know, is >> >> that >> > when >> >> you do something like "hoop center", the machine drives the hoop to >>what >> > it >> >> knows to be the normal hoop center. But because of the large size of >> >> this >> >> hooping system and the fact that there is a negative "Y" offset, the >>hoop >> >> may in fact be driven forward into the back of your needle case and >>push >> > it >> >> off of it's support rails. This is definitely not a good thing and >>will >> >> require somewhere in the neighborhood of about $1000 or more out of >>your >> >> pocket to have a technician fix. Sometimes the damage may be so much >> >> that >> >> an entire new needle case will be needed. >> >> The rule of thumb for this, and other hoops like them are to never >>power >> >> your machine, up or down, with this device on your machine. You also >> >> must >> >> verify, and adjust if necessary, the height of the hoop so that the >>hoops >> >> are not too high off the needle plate. Ultimately, with every hoop, >>the >> >> fabric is supposed to ride on the surface of the needle plate as you >>sew. >> >> Otherwise flagging will result. Since this device was created to fit >> >> just >> >> about all machines, you must take it upon yourself to make sure that >> >> it >> >> is >> >> set correctly to your machine. >> >> With that said, if you do everything you're supposed to and are a >> >> cautious >> >> individual, this is an incredible tool and allows you to embroider a >> >> great >> >> number of items you ordinarily wouldn't have been able to hoop before. >>I >> > am >> >> an advocate of the hooptech system, but I just hate to see accidents >> > happen. >> >> Best of luck to you. >> >> Ed Orantes >> >> Amaya Tech & Owner >> >> New Orleans, La. >> >> 504-258-6260 >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Itchin To Stitch >> >> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:17 PM >> >> To: Amaya User Group >> >> Subject: [amayausers] 2 questions >> >> >> >> >> >> Tonight when I turned on my machine and it moved to needle 9 there was >>a >> >> loud snapping noise. When I moved the needle case back and forth it >>made >> > the >> >> same noise as it went past needle #11. I couldn't see anything obvious >> > that >> >> was causing the noise so I turned the machine off and then powered it >>up >> >> again. Again the same snapping noise and then the noise disappeared. >>The >> >> machine was sewing fine last Tuesday when I last used it and I had no >> >> obvious problems with it. Any ideas on this one???? >> >> 2nd question ----- Does anyone use the 7.5"x6" HoopTech window on >> >> their >> >> Amaya? I bought one at the ISS in Atlanta last week and would like to >>get >> >> the hoop setup dimensions if anyone is willing to share. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Wendy >> >> Itchin' To Stitch >> >> MN >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and > more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx > > >