Actually Andy, computers are around that are as quiet as a video recorder, and ones that are completely silent, as near as darn it! Very quiet fans, or no fans are used in some instances. Hard disks enclosed in soundproof enclsures are used to combat noise from that source. In the sound recording field, perhaps Carrilon computers have become a benchmark for this sort of machine. As well as being very, very quiet, they are optimised for audio recording There are other firms too that are expliting this nich of the market. More in the mainstream, you have firms such as Hi Grade, who have marketed a Media Center computer for a couple of years or so now. Almost sure Sony does too, though being Sony you pay a high premium for the style. So, in short Andy, there are no shortage of really quiet machines around, and some are priced not too disimilarly to the noisy one you've got. Maybe for my own reference I'll do some searches on media and quiet Pcs. As for the Window-Eyes issue and MC, as Peter says, maybe there is a heavy reliance on MSAA, but I don't see that necessarily as abad thing. I think in the next year there are bound to be reviews of these things on programs like Main Menu, and the newer and growing list at cooltechaudio list. Its a trend in the merging of Pcs and multimedia that is hardly likely to be overlooked by blind people; quite the reverse.. Ray Personal emails: Email me at mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Hi Ray. | | Absolutely, the noise is a concern. My computer, despite costing me over | £1000 last year is as noisy as a washing machine. They will need to become | significantly quieter but given the cooling that needs to be don, I don't | think they will ever run as silent as a video recorder. | | I too would be interested in any information regarding which access software | is best suited to the media centre. I'd change from jaws to windoweyes if I | thought that access would be possible. | | best wishes. | Andy | | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq