[access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center

Hi,

We didn't get it here, and doing a search in the email server log doesn't 
indicate anything from you even coming through our borders, other than relayed 
through access-uk.

Could you use something like www.yousendit.com?

Andrew.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: 29 October 2005 22:58
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center

Hi Andrew.

yes, I sent it at the same time as the one I sent to George.  George has 
already been writing asking did I send it.  I sent both about an hour ago. 
It's a very small file lasting about 1 minute..  Perhaps BT are not happy 
with me sending this type of file?

Andy


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center


> Hi,
>
> Did you send the MP3 file?
>
> Andrew.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
> Of Andy
> Sent: 29 October 2005 19:24
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center
>
> Hi Andrew.
>
> Funny how you get used to noise isn't it?  You may be right Andrew, but 
> the
> noise was there before I visited the shop.  It's as though their bench was
> specially balanced or something.  Glasgow is a couple of hours away and a
> full days trip to visit PC World.  I'm loathed to get Pauline on a weekend
> day off to take me all the way up for the computer to be running silent
> again.
>
> Best wishes.
> Andy
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 7:17 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am wondering if something is loose in the machine, and when you got it
>> home it got banged/etc and thus the noise is back?
>>
>> Andrew.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of Andy
>> Sent: 29 October 2005 19:12
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center
>>
>> Hi George.
>>
>> I purchased my computer from PC World in December of last year and
>> returned
>> to the shop around April for assistance with another problem.  At that
>> time,
>> I also complained about the terrible noise coming from my computer and 
>> the
>> lady took me into the lab at the back of the shop.  To my surprise, there
>> was my computer on a bench running as quietly as a mouse.  I told her 
>> that
>> the noise was driving me mad and she pointed to the machine stating that
>> she
>> could not hear anything.  Sure enough, when I put my ear to the machine, 
>> I
>> too could hardly hear a thing.  However, when I got home and returned my
>> computer to it's normal location, the noise was back.  I've tried lifting
>> each corner very slightly in case it was like a fridge in the sense that
>> it's balance needed slight adjustments.  After a month or so of trying to
>> achieve this, I gave up.  It's a great computer George:  Very quick with
>> everything, but I cannot listen to music from the CD player because of 
>> the
>> noise.  My older Packard Bell, which is about three years old and now
>> belongs to Pauline, is silent.
>>
>> Best wishes.
>> Andy
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 6:48 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center
>>
>>
>>> Fan noise is something which you can often deal with
>>> yourself.  Indeed there is a very good article on the
>>> subject at:-  (Watch out for the long URL - it should end in
>>> "your-pc.html")
>>> http://www.compshopper.co.uk/shopper/features/67514/silence-
>>> your-pc.html
>>>
>>> Essentially there are usually up to four fans.
>>> 1) The CPU Fan.
>>> 2) The Power Supply Fan.
>>> 3) The General Case Circulation Fan.
>>> 4) Specific Board Fans.  (For example on a Video Card)
>>>
>>> Although you will usually require help from someone familiar
>>> and experienced with working inside PCs, you can often cut
>>> noise down without spending too much.  (Other than a beer or
>>> three for the helper!)
>>>
>>> Fans get dirty, so clean them with either a small dry paint
>>> brush, or a can of compressed air.
>>>
>>> You be surprised how much noise is actually just plain old
>>> vibration.  A loose cable can vibrate against the side of
>>> the case, when all it needs is a cable tie, or even a small
>>> piece of insulating tape, to keep it clear.
>>>
>>> In some cases, a tiny drop of oil can work wonders with a
>>> noisy fan.  Bearings can dry out, but be careful to use only
>>> a small amount of oil, and plane to replace the fan anyway.
>>>
>>> If all else fails, try and identify the fan which makes the
>>> most noise, and consider replacing it with a silent type.
>>> Fans are not generally expensive, especially when you
>>> consider the cost over the life of the PC, not to mention
>>> your personal comfort during that period.
>>>
>>> George.
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy
>>>> Sent: 29 October 2005 17:15
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ray.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the noise is an issue but I'm sure computers will
>>> become
>>>> much more quieter in the near future, particularly because
>>> of
>>>> the DVD and CD playing ability.  I'll do a search for the
>>>> brands you mentioned to see what's available now.  I do
>>> hope
>>>> that accessibility is not going to prevent visually
>>> impaired
>>>> people enjoy these multi-media machines though.  It seems
>>>> that we are always waiting doesn't it?
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes.
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:32 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Actually Andy, computers are around that are as quiet as
>>> a
>>>> video recorder,
>>>> > and ones that are completely silent, as near as darn it!
>>>
>>>> Very quiet fans,
>>>> > or no fans are used in some instances.  Hard disks
>>> enclosed
>>>> in soundproof
>>>> > enclsures are used to combat noise from that source.
>>>> >
>>>> > In the sound recording field, perhaps Carrilon computers
>>>
>>>> have become a
>>>> > benchmark for this sort of machine.  As well as being
>>> very,
>>>> very quiet,
>>>> > they are optimised for audio recording  There are other
>>>> firms too that are
>>>> > expliting this nich of the market.
>>>> >
>>>> > More in the mainstream, you have firms such as Hi Grade,
>>>
>>>> who have marketed
>>>> > a Media Center computer for a couple of years or so now.
>>>
>>>> Almost sure Sony
>>>> > does too, though being Sony you pay a high premium for
>>> the style.
>>>> >
>>>> > So, in short Andy, there are no shortage of really quiet
>>>
>>>> machines around,
>>>> > and some are priced not too disimilarly to the noisy one
>>>
>>>> you've got.
>>>> > Maybe for my own reference I'll do some searches on
>>> media
>>>> and quiet Pcs.
>>>> >
>>>> > As for the Window-Eyes issue and MC, as Peter says,
>>> maybe
>>>> there is a heavy
>>>> > reliance on MSAA,  but I don't see that necessarily as
>>> abad
>>>> thing.  I
>>>> > think in the next year there are bound to be reviews of
>>>> these things on
>>>> > programs like Main Menu, and the newer and growing list
>>> at
>>>> cooltechaudio
>>>> > list.  Its a trend in the merging of Pcs and multimedia
>>>> that is hardly
>>>> > likely to be overlooked by blind people;  quite the
>>> reverse..
>>>> > Ray
>>>> >
>>>> > Personal emails:  Email me at
>>>> > mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> > From: "Andy" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > | Hi Ray.
>>>> > |
>>>> > | Absolutely, the noise is a concern.  My computer,
>>> despite
>>>> costing me
>>>> > over
>>>> > | £1000 last year is as noisy as a washing machine.
>>> They
>>>> will need to
>>>> > become
>>>> > | significantly quieter but given the cooling that needs
>>> to
>>>> be don, I
>>>> > don't
>>>> > | think they will ever run as silent as a video
>>> recorder.
>>>> > |
>>>> > | I too would be interested in any information regarding
>>>
>>>> which access
>>>> > software
>>>> > | is best suited to the media centre.  I'd change from
>>> jaws
>>>> to windoweyes
>>>> > if I
>>>> > | thought that access would be possible.
>>>> > |
>>>> > | best wishes.
>>>> > | Andy
>>>> > |
>>>> > |
>>>> > | ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> > | From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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