[access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center

Hi,

Did you send the MP3 file?

Andrew.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: 29 October 2005 19:24
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center

Hi Andrew.

Funny how you get used to noise isn't it?  You may be right Andrew, but the 
noise was there before I visited the shop.  It's as though their bench was 
specially balanced or something.  Glasgow is a couple of hours away and a 
full days trip to visit PC World.  I'm loathed to get Pauline on a weekend 
day off to take me all the way up for the computer to be running silent 
again.

Best wishes.
Andy


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 7:17 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center


> Hi,
>
> I am wondering if something is loose in the machine, and when you got it 
> home it got banged/etc and thus the noise is back?
>
> Andrew.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
> Of Andy
> Sent: 29 October 2005 19:12
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center
>
> Hi George.
>
> I purchased my computer from PC World in December of last year and 
> returned
> to the shop around April for assistance with another problem.  At that 
> time,
> I also complained about the terrible noise coming from my computer and the
> lady took me into the lab at the back of the shop.  To my surprise, there
> was my computer on a bench running as quietly as a mouse.  I told her that
> the noise was driving me mad and she pointed to the machine stating that 
> she
> could not hear anything.  Sure enough, when I put my ear to the machine, I
> too could hardly hear a thing.  However, when I got home and returned my
> computer to it's normal location, the noise was back.  I've tried lifting
> each corner very slightly in case it was like a fridge in the sense that
> it's balance needed slight adjustments.  After a month or so of trying to
> achieve this, I gave up.  It's a great computer George:  Very quick with
> everything, but I cannot listen to music from the CD player because of the
> noise.  My older Packard Bell, which is about three years old and now
> belongs to Pauline, is silent.
>
> Best wishes.
> Andy
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 6:48 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center
>
>
>> Fan noise is something which you can often deal with
>> yourself.  Indeed there is a very good article on the
>> subject at:-  (Watch out for the long URL - it should end in
>> "your-pc.html")
>> http://www.compshopper.co.uk/shopper/features/67514/silence-
>> your-pc.html
>>
>> Essentially there are usually up to four fans.
>> 1) The CPU Fan.
>> 2) The Power Supply Fan.
>> 3) The General Case Circulation Fan.
>> 4) Specific Board Fans.  (For example on a Video Card)
>>
>> Although you will usually require help from someone familiar
>> and experienced with working inside PCs, you can often cut
>> noise down without spending too much.  (Other than a beer or
>> three for the helper!)
>>
>> Fans get dirty, so clean them with either a small dry paint
>> brush, or a can of compressed air.
>>
>> You be surprised how much noise is actually just plain old
>> vibration.  A loose cable can vibrate against the side of
>> the case, when all it needs is a cable tie, or even a small
>> piece of insulating tape, to keep it clear.
>>
>> In some cases, a tiny drop of oil can work wonders with a
>> noisy fan.  Bearings can dry out, but be careful to use only
>> a small amount of oil, and plane to replace the fan anyway.
>>
>> If all else fails, try and identify the fan which makes the
>> most noise, and consider replacing it with a silent type.
>> Fans are not generally expensive, especially when you
>> consider the cost over the life of the PC, not to mention
>> your personal comfort during that period.
>>
>> George.
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy
>>> Sent: 29 October 2005 17:15
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center
>>>
>>> Hi Ray.
>>>
>>> Yes, the noise is an issue but I'm sure computers will
>> become
>>> much more quieter in the near future, particularly because
>> of
>>> the DVD and CD playing ability.  I'll do a search for the
>>> brands you mentioned to see what's available now.  I do
>> hope
>>> that accessibility is not going to prevent visually
>> impaired
>>> people enjoy these multi-media machines though.  It seems
>>> that we are always waiting doesn't it?
>>>
>>> Best wishes.
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:32 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center
>>>
>>>
>>> > Actually Andy, computers are around that are as quiet as
>> a
>>> video recorder,
>>> > and ones that are completely silent, as near as darn it!
>>
>>> Very quiet fans,
>>> > or no fans are used in some instances.  Hard disks
>> enclosed
>>> in soundproof
>>> > enclsures are used to combat noise from that source.
>>> >
>>> > In the sound recording field, perhaps Carrilon computers
>>
>>> have become a
>>> > benchmark for this sort of machine.  As well as being
>> very,
>>> very quiet,
>>> > they are optimised for audio recording  There are other
>>> firms too that are
>>> > expliting this nich of the market.
>>> >
>>> > More in the mainstream, you have firms such as Hi Grade,
>>
>>> who have marketed
>>> > a Media Center computer for a couple of years or so now.
>>
>>> Almost sure Sony
>>> > does too, though being Sony you pay a high premium for
>> the style.
>>> >
>>> > So, in short Andy, there are no shortage of really quiet
>>
>>> machines around,
>>> > and some are priced not too disimilarly to the noisy one
>>
>>> you've got.
>>> > Maybe for my own reference I'll do some searches on
>> media
>>> and quiet Pcs.
>>> >
>>> > As for the Window-Eyes issue and MC, as Peter says,
>> maybe
>>> there is a heavy
>>> > reliance on MSAA,  but I don't see that necessarily as
>> abad
>>> thing.  I
>>> > think in the next year there are bound to be reviews of
>>> these things on
>>> > programs like Main Menu, and the newer and growing list
>> at
>>> cooltechaudio
>>> > list.  Its a trend in the merging of Pcs and multimedia
>>> that is hardly
>>> > likely to be overlooked by blind people;  quite the
>> reverse..
>>> > Ray
>>> >
>>> > Personal emails:  Email me at
>>> > mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> > From: "Andy" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > | Hi Ray.
>>> > |
>>> > | Absolutely, the noise is a concern.  My computer,
>> despite
>>> costing me
>>> > over
>>> > | £1000 last year is as noisy as a washing machine.
>> They
>>> will need to
>>> > become
>>> > | significantly quieter but given the cooling that needs
>> to
>>> be don, I
>>> > don't
>>> > | think they will ever run as silent as a video
>> recorder.
>>> > |
>>> > | I too would be interested in any information regarding
>>
>>> which access
>>> > software
>>> > | is best suited to the media centre.  I'd change from
>> jaws
>>> to windoweyes
>>> > if I
>>> > | thought that access would be possible.
>>> > |
>>> > | best wishes.
>>> > | Andy
>>> > |
>>> > |
>>> > | ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> > | From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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