Hi, Did you send the MP3 file? Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: 29 October 2005 19:24 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center Hi Andrew. Funny how you get used to noise isn't it? You may be right Andrew, but the noise was there before I visited the shop. It's as though their bench was specially balanced or something. Glasgow is a couple of hours away and a full days trip to visit PC World. I'm loathed to get Pauline on a weekend day off to take me all the way up for the computer to be running silent again. Best wishes. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 7:17 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center > Hi, > > I am wondering if something is loose in the machine, and when you got it > home it got banged/etc and thus the noise is back? > > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of Andy > Sent: 29 October 2005 19:12 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center > > Hi George. > > I purchased my computer from PC World in December of last year and > returned > to the shop around April for assistance with another problem. At that > time, > I also complained about the terrible noise coming from my computer and the > lady took me into the lab at the back of the shop. To my surprise, there > was my computer on a bench running as quietly as a mouse. I told her that > the noise was driving me mad and she pointed to the machine stating that > she > could not hear anything. Sure enough, when I put my ear to the machine, I > too could hardly hear a thing. However, when I got home and returned my > computer to it's normal location, the noise was back. I've tried lifting > each corner very slightly in case it was like a fridge in the sense that > it's balance needed slight adjustments. After a month or so of trying to > achieve this, I gave up. It's a great computer George: Very quick with > everything, but I cannot listen to music from the CD player because of the > noise. My older Packard Bell, which is about three years old and now > belongs to Pauline, is silent. > > Best wishes. > Andy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 6:48 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center > > >> Fan noise is something which you can often deal with >> yourself. Indeed there is a very good article on the >> subject at:- (Watch out for the long URL - it should end in >> "your-pc.html") >> http://www.compshopper.co.uk/shopper/features/67514/silence- >> your-pc.html >> >> Essentially there are usually up to four fans. >> 1) The CPU Fan. >> 2) The Power Supply Fan. >> 3) The General Case Circulation Fan. >> 4) Specific Board Fans. (For example on a Video Card) >> >> Although you will usually require help from someone familiar >> and experienced with working inside PCs, you can often cut >> noise down without spending too much. (Other than a beer or >> three for the helper!) >> >> Fans get dirty, so clean them with either a small dry paint >> brush, or a can of compressed air. >> >> You be surprised how much noise is actually just plain old >> vibration. A loose cable can vibrate against the side of >> the case, when all it needs is a cable tie, or even a small >> piece of insulating tape, to keep it clear. >> >> In some cases, a tiny drop of oil can work wonders with a >> noisy fan. Bearings can dry out, but be careful to use only >> a small amount of oil, and plane to replace the fan anyway. >> >> If all else fails, try and identify the fan which makes the >> most noise, and consider replacing it with a silent type. >> Fans are not generally expensive, especially when you >> consider the cost over the life of the PC, not to mention >> your personal comfort during that period. >> >> George. >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy >>> Sent: 29 October 2005 17:15 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center >>> >>> Hi Ray. >>> >>> Yes, the noise is an issue but I'm sure computers will >> become >>> much more quieter in the near future, particularly because >> of >>> the DVD and CD playing ability. I'll do a search for the >>> brands you mentioned to see what's available now. I do >> hope >>> that accessibility is not going to prevent visually >> impaired >>> people enjoy these multi-media machines though. It seems >>> that we are always waiting doesn't it? >>> >>> Best wishes. >>> Andy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:32 PM >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center >>> >>> >>> > Actually Andy, computers are around that are as quiet as >> a >>> video recorder, >>> > and ones that are completely silent, as near as darn it! >> >>> Very quiet fans, >>> > or no fans are used in some instances. Hard disks >> enclosed >>> in soundproof >>> > enclsures are used to combat noise from that source. >>> > >>> > In the sound recording field, perhaps Carrilon computers >> >>> have become a >>> > benchmark for this sort of machine. As well as being >> very, >>> very quiet, >>> > they are optimised for audio recording There are other >>> firms too that are >>> > expliting this nich of the market. >>> > >>> > More in the mainstream, you have firms such as Hi Grade, >> >>> who have marketed >>> > a Media Center computer for a couple of years or so now. >> >>> Almost sure Sony >>> > does too, though being Sony you pay a high premium for >> the style. >>> > >>> > So, in short Andy, there are no shortage of really quiet >> >>> machines around, >>> > and some are priced not too disimilarly to the noisy one >> >>> you've got. >>> > Maybe for my own reference I'll do some searches on >> media >>> and quiet Pcs. >>> > >>> > As for the Window-Eyes issue and MC, as Peter says, >> maybe >>> there is a heavy >>> > reliance on MSAA, but I don't see that necessarily as >> abad >>> thing. I >>> > think in the next year there are bound to be reviews of >>> these things on >>> > programs like Main Menu, and the newer and growing list >> at >>> cooltechaudio >>> > list. Its a trend in the merging of Pcs and multimedia >>> that is hardly >>> > likely to be overlooked by blind people; quite the >> reverse.. >>> > Ray >>> > >>> > Personal emails: Email me at >>> > mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "Andy" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> > >>> > >>> > | Hi Ray. >>> > | >>> > | Absolutely, the noise is a concern. My computer, >> despite >>> costing me >>> > over >>> > | £1000 last year is as noisy as a washing machine. >> They >>> will need to >>> > become >>> > | significantly quieter but given the cooling that needs >> to >>> be don, I >>> > don't >>> > | think they will ever run as silent as a video >> recorder. >>> > | >>> > | I too would be interested in any information regarding >> >>> which access >>> > software >>> > | is best suited to the media centre. 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