[access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center

Hi Andrew.

George was asking again what was keeping my file so I had a look in my Sent Items folder and when I opened my message to him, jaws announced "
OE removed access to the following unsafe attachments in your mail." Does this mean that the attachment I sent you and Gorge was held back?


Andy



----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center


Hi,

Did you send the MP3 file?

Andrew.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: 29 October 2005 19:24
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center

Hi Andrew.

Funny how you get used to noise isn't it? You may be right Andrew, but the
noise was there before I visited the shop. It's as though their bench was
specially balanced or something. Glasgow is a couple of hours away and a
full days trip to visit PC World. I'm loathed to get Pauline on a weekend
day off to take me all the way up for the computer to be running silent
again.

Best wishes.
Andy


----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 7:17 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center


Hi,

I am wondering if something is loose in the machine, and when you got it
home it got banged/etc and thus the noise is back?

Andrew.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Andy
Sent: 29 October 2005 19:12
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center

Hi George.

I purchased my computer from PC World in December of last year and
returned
to the shop around April for assistance with another problem. At that
time,
I also complained about the terrible noise coming from my computer and the
lady took me into the lab at the back of the shop. To my surprise, there
was my computer on a bench running as quietly as a mouse. I told her that
the noise was driving me mad and she pointed to the machine stating that
she
could not hear anything. Sure enough, when I put my ear to the machine, I
too could hardly hear a thing. However, when I got home and returned my
computer to it's normal location, the noise was back. I've tried lifting
each corner very slightly in case it was like a fridge in the sense that
it's balance needed slight adjustments. After a month or so of trying to
achieve this, I gave up. It's a great computer George: Very quick with
everything, but I cannot listen to music from the CD player because of the
noise. My older Packard Bell, which is about three years old and now
belongs to Pauline, is silent.

Best wishes.
Andy

----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 6:48 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center


Fan noise is something which you can often deal with
yourself.  Indeed there is a very good article on the
subject at:-  (Watch out for the long URL - it should end in
"your-pc.html")
http://www.compshopper.co.uk/shopper/features/67514/silence-
your-pc.html

Essentially there are usually up to four fans.
1) The CPU Fan.
2) The Power Supply Fan.
3) The General Case Circulation Fan.
4) Specific Board Fans.  (For example on a Video Card)

Although you will usually require help from someone familiar
and experienced with working inside PCs, you can often cut
noise down without spending too much.  (Other than a beer or
three for the helper!)

Fans get dirty, so clean them with either a small dry paint
brush, or a can of compressed air.

You be surprised how much noise is actually just plain old
vibration.  A loose cable can vibrate against the side of
the case, when all it needs is a cable tie, or even a small
piece of insulating tape, to keep it clear.

In some cases, a tiny drop of oil can work wonders with a
noisy fan.  Bearings can dry out, but be careful to use only
a small amount of oil, and plane to replace the fan anyway.

If all else fails, try and identify the fan which makes the
most noise, and consider replacing it with a silent type.
Fans are not generally expensive, especially when you
consider the cost over the life of the PC, not to mention
your personal comfort during that period.

George.


-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: 29 October 2005 17:15
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center

Hi Ray.

Yes, the noise is an issue but I'm sure computers will
become
much more quieter in the near future, particularly because
of 
the DVD and CD playing ability.  I'll do a search for the
brands you mentioned to see what's available now.  I do
hope
that accessibility is not going to prevent visually
impaired 
people enjoy these multi-media machines though.  It seems
that we are always waiting doesn't it?

Best wishes.
Andy




----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:32 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center


> Actually Andy, computers are around that are as quiet as
a 
video recorder,
> and ones that are completely silent, as near as darn it!


Very quiet fans,
> or no fans are used in some instances.  Hard disks
enclosed 
in soundproof
> enclsures are used to combat noise from that source.
>
> In the sound recording field, perhaps Carrilon computers


have become a
> benchmark for this sort of machine.  As well as being
very, 
very quiet,
> they are optimised for audio recording  There are other
firms too that are
> expliting this nich of the market.
>
> More in the mainstream, you have firms such as Hi Grade,


who have marketed
> a Media Center computer for a couple of years or so now.


Almost sure Sony
> does too, though being Sony you pay a high premium for
the style. 
>
> So, in short Andy, there are no shortage of really quiet


machines around,
> and some are priced not too disimilarly to the noisy one


you've got.
> Maybe for my own reference I'll do some searches on
media 
and quiet Pcs.
>
> As for the Window-Eyes issue and MC, as Peter says,
maybe 
there is a heavy
> reliance on MSAA,  but I don't see that necessarily as
abad 
thing.  I
> think in the next year there are bound to be reviews of
these things on
> programs like Main Menu, and the newer and growing list
at 
cooltechaudio
> list.  Its a trend in the merging of Pcs and multimedia
that is hardly
> likely to be overlooked by blind people;  quite the
reverse..
> Ray
>
> Personal emails: Email me at
> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> | Hi Ray.
> |
> | Absolutely, the noise is a concern. My computer,
despite 
costing me
> over
> | £1000 last year is as noisy as a washing machine.
They 
will need to
> become
> | significantly quieter but given the cooling that needs
to 
be don, I
> don't
> | think they will ever run as silent as a video
recorder. 
> |
> | I too would be interested in any information regarding


which access
> software
> | is best suited to the media centre.  I'd change from
jaws
to windoweyes
> if I
> | thought that access would be possible.
> |
> | best wishes.
> | Andy
> |
> |
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