Hi, Does this happen as soon as the machine is switched on or only after Windows is starting/started? Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: 29 October 2005 19:19 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center Hi George. Just for a check, since my last message, I walked out of my study and across the living room floor to a point some 30 feet away from my computer and I could still hear it. You know the sound you get when your computer is very busy, for example, downloading a file, It's like a drive running at full speed. Well, that is the noise I get all of the time and it never gets quieter. It's as though one of my drives is running like a spin dryer . Does this mean anything to you or anyone George? I can live with it, but I'm sure it should not be as loud as this. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 6:48 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center > Fan noise is something which you can often deal with > yourself. Indeed there is a very good article on the > subject at:- (Watch out for the long URL - it should end in > "your-pc.html") > http://www.compshopper.co.uk/shopper/features/67514/silence- > your-pc.html > > Essentially there are usually up to four fans. > 1) The CPU Fan. > 2) The Power Supply Fan. > 3) The General Case Circulation Fan. > 4) Specific Board Fans. (For example on a Video Card) > > Although you will usually require help from someone familiar > and experienced with working inside PCs, you can often cut > noise down without spending too much. (Other than a beer or > three for the helper!) > > Fans get dirty, so clean them with either a small dry paint > brush, or a can of compressed air. > > You be surprised how much noise is actually just plain old > vibration. A loose cable can vibrate against the side of > the case, when all it needs is a cable tie, or even a small > piece of insulating tape, to keep it clear. > > In some cases, a tiny drop of oil can work wonders with a > noisy fan. Bearings can dry out, but be careful to use only > a small amount of oil, and plane to replace the fan anyway. > > If all else fails, try and identify the fan which makes the > most noise, and consider replacing it with a silent type. > Fans are not generally expensive, especially when you > consider the cost over the life of the PC, not to mention > your personal comfort during that period. > > George. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy >> Sent: 29 October 2005 17:15 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center >> >> Hi Ray. >> >> Yes, the noise is an issue but I'm sure computers will > become >> much more quieter in the near future, particularly because > of >> the DVD and CD playing ability. I'll do a search for the >> brands you mentioned to see what's available now. I do > hope >> that accessibility is not going to prevent visually > impaired >> people enjoy these multi-media machines though. It seems >> that we are always waiting doesn't it? >> >> Best wishes. >> Andy >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:32 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center >> >> >> > Actually Andy, computers are around that are as quiet as > a >> video recorder, >> > and ones that are completely silent, as near as darn it! > >> Very quiet fans, >> > or no fans are used in some instances. Hard disks > enclosed >> in soundproof >> > enclsures are used to combat noise from that source. >> > >> > In the sound recording field, perhaps Carrilon computers > >> have become a >> > benchmark for this sort of machine. As well as being > very, >> very quiet, >> > they are optimised for audio recording There are other >> firms too that are >> > expliting this nich of the market. >> > >> > More in the mainstream, you have firms such as Hi Grade, > >> who have marketed >> > a Media Center computer for a couple of years or so now. > >> Almost sure Sony >> > does too, though being Sony you pay a high premium for > the style. >> > >> > So, in short Andy, there are no shortage of really quiet > >> machines around, >> > and some are priced not too disimilarly to the noisy one > >> you've got. >> > Maybe for my own reference I'll do some searches on > media >> and quiet Pcs. >> > >> > As for the Window-Eyes issue and MC, as Peter says, > maybe >> there is a heavy >> > reliance on MSAA, but I don't see that necessarily as > abad >> thing. I >> > think in the next year there are bound to be reviews of >> these things on >> > programs like Main Menu, and the newer and growing list > at >> cooltechaudio >> > list. Its a trend in the merging of Pcs and multimedia >> that is hardly >> > likely to be overlooked by blind people; quite the > reverse.. >> > Ray >> > >> > Personal emails: Email me at >> > mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Andy" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > >> > >> > | Hi Ray. >> > | >> > | Absolutely, the noise is a concern. My computer, > despite >> costing me >> > over >> > | £1000 last year is as noisy as a washing machine. > They >> will need to >> > become >> > | significantly quieter but given the cooling that needs > to >> be don, I >> > don't >> > | think they will ever run as silent as a video > recorder. >> > | >> > | I too would be interested in any information regarding > >> which access >> > software >> > | is best suited to the media centre. 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