[access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center
- From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:38:49 -0000
It wants the bed, that's the problem! <GRINS>
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Carol
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Andy
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 10:55 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center
Hi Carol.
Actually, I built the unit the computer is sitting on! Don't laugh
though,
for I've also had it on the dinning room table and it's still as noisy.
I've even had it on the floor.
Best wishes.
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 10:47 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center
> What surface is it on Andy?
>
>
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> Carol
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Andy
> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 7:12 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center
>
>
> Hi George.
>
> I purchased my computer from PC World in December of last year and
> returned to the shop around April for assistance with another problem.
> At that time,
> I also complained about the terrible noise coming from my computer and
> the
> lady took me into the lab at the back of the shop. To my surprise,
> there
> was my computer on a bench running as quietly as a mouse. I told her
> that
> the noise was driving me mad and she pointed to the machine stating
that
> she
> could not hear anything. Sure enough, when I put my ear to the
machine,
> I
> too could hardly hear a thing. However, when I got home and returned
my
>
> computer to it's normal location, the noise was back. I've tried
> lifting each corner very slightly in case it was like a fridge in the
> sense that
>
> it's balance needed slight adjustments. After a month or so of trying
> to achieve this, I gave up. It's a great computer George: Very quick
> with
>
> everything, but I cannot listen to music from the CD player because of
> the noise. My older Packard Bell, which is about three years old and
> now belongs to Pauline, is silent.
>
> Best wishes.
> Andy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 6:48 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center
>
>
>> Fan noise is something which you can often deal with yourself.
>> Indeed
>
>> there is a very good article on the subject at:- (Watch out for the
>> long URL - it should end in
>> "your-pc.html")
>> http://www.compshopper.co.uk/shopper/features/67514/silence-
>> your-pc.html
>>
>> Essentially there are usually up to four fans.
>> 1) The CPU Fan.
>> 2) The Power Supply Fan.
>> 3) The General Case Circulation Fan.
>> 4) Specific Board Fans. (For example on a Video Card)
>>
>> Although you will usually require help from someone familiar and
>> experienced with working inside PCs, you can often cut noise down
>> without spending too much. (Other than a beer or three for the
>> helper!)
>>
>> Fans get dirty, so clean them with either a small dry paint brush, or
>> a can of compressed air.
>>
>> You be surprised how much noise is actually just plain old vibration.
>
>> A loose cable can vibrate against the side of the case, when all it
>> needs is a cable tie, or even a small piece of insulating tape, to
>> keep it clear.
>>
>> In some cases, a tiny drop of oil can work wonders with a noisy fan.
>> Bearings can dry out, but be careful to use only a small amount of
>> oil, and plane to replace the fan anyway.
>>
>> If all else fails, try and identify the fan which makes the most
>> noise, and consider replacing it with a silent type. Fans are not
>> generally expensive, especially when you consider the cost over the
>> life of the PC, not to mention your personal comfort during that
>> period.
>>
>> George.
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf Of Andy
>>> Sent: 29 October 2005 17:15
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center
>>>
>>> Hi Ray.
>>>
>>> Yes, the noise is an issue but I'm sure computers will
>> become
>>> much more quieter in the near future, particularly because
>> of
>>> the DVD and CD playing ability. I'll do a search for the brands you
>>> mentioned to see what's available now. I do
>> hope
>>> that accessibility is not going to prevent visually
>> impaired
>>> people enjoy these multi-media machines though. It seems that we
>>> are
>
>>> always waiting doesn't it?
>>>
>>> Best wishes.
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:32 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp pro and media center
>>>
>>>
>>> > Actually Andy, computers are around that are as quiet as
>> a
>>> video recorder,
>>> > and ones that are completely silent, as near as darn it!
>>
>>> Very quiet fans,
>>> > or no fans are used in some instances. Hard disks
>> enclosed
>>> in soundproof
>>> > enclsures are used to combat noise from that source.
>>> >
>>> > In the sound recording field, perhaps Carrilon computers
>>
>>> have become a
>>> > benchmark for this sort of machine. As well as being
>> very,
>>> very quiet,
>>> > they are optimised for audio recording There are other
>>> firms too that are
>>> > expliting this nich of the market.
>>> >
>>> > More in the mainstream, you have firms such as Hi Grade,
>>
>>> who have marketed
>>> > a Media Center computer for a couple of years or so now.
>>
>>> Almost sure Sony
>>> > does too, though being Sony you pay a high premium for
>> the style.
>>> >
>>> > So, in short Andy, there are no shortage of really quiet
>>
>>> machines around,
>>> > and some are priced not too disimilarly to the noisy one
>>
>>> you've got.
>>> > Maybe for my own reference I'll do some searches on
>> media
>>> and quiet Pcs.
>>> >
>>> > As for the Window-Eyes issue and MC, as Peter says,
>> maybe
>>> there is a heavy
>>> > reliance on MSAA, but I don't see that necessarily as
>> abad
>>> thing. I
>>> > think in the next year there are bound to be reviews of
>>> these things on
>>> > programs like Main Menu, and the newer and growing list
>> at
>>> cooltechaudio
>>> > list. Its a trend in the merging of Pcs and multimedia
>>> that is hardly
>>> > likely to be overlooked by blind people; quite the
>> reverse..
>>> > Ray
>>> >
>>> > Personal emails: Email me at
>>> > mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Andy" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > | Hi Ray.
>>> > |
>>> > | Absolutely, the noise is a concern. My computer,
>> despite
>>> costing me
>>> > over
>>> > | £1000 last year is as noisy as a washing machine.
>> They
>>> will need to
>>> > become
>>> > | significantly quieter but given the cooling that needs
>> to
>>> be don, I
>>> > don't
>>> > | think they will ever run as silent as a video
>> recorder.
>>> > |
>>> > | I too would be interested in any information regarding
>>
>>> which access
>>> > software
>>> > | is best suited to the media centre. I'd change from
>> jaws
>>> to windoweyes
>>> > if I
>>> > | thought that access would be possible.
>>> > |
>>> > | best wishes.
>>> > | Andy
>>> > |
>>> > |
>>> > | ----- Original Message -----
>>> > | From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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