[access-uk] Re: Moderators request once more: Subject naming
- From: "Sunil" <bosley20@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 15:13:14 +0100
I can't quite see how Andrew's comments are relevant but there you go.
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Dj Paddy
Sent: 05 September 2005 15:01
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Moderators request once more: Subject naming
Like it or not please folow it.
It's not up for debate.
Quoting, when to quote how to quote is a personal thing And one we've not on
this list stibulated a standard for.
|Let me try and give you one final exampel Sunil.
Somebody asks a question on Podcasts.
Now you may have all you want to know on the subject so you delete that
conversational thread.
But lurking under there was a post from someone who altered the subject
field and answered a question you've been trying to get answered for a while
on a related or nonrelated issue.
You've missed that tip because the person did not take the two seconds if
usign OE to hit ctrl n and type a new message.
It makes sense as well as perhaps being geeky, news groupy.
Andrews comments especially that were he gives the analogy of being in a
room and people begin talking at once about different topics is a very
accurate one.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sunil" <bosley20@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 2:30 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Moderators request once more: Subject naming
> Its geeky tyranny
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Hodgson [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Andrew Hodgson
> Sent: 05 September 2005 14:25
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [access-uk] Re: Moderators request once more: Subject
> naming
>
>
> Hi Sunil,
>
> I don't believe you can just brush netiquette off the table in this
> manner.
> Imagine for example that if you are in a room, everyone in the room spoke
> to
> you differently, expected certain things from you, etc, you would soon
> find
> issues. Ensuring that on lists such as this people follow some simple
> guidelines will make things much easier down the line. I know I brushed
> against netiquette for a few years with my top posting protest, but after
> realising that people were not able to take full advantage of the time I
> spent into writing such messages etc, I decided to follow the convension.
>
> Now taking Barry's original request into account - people who group by
> conversation are likely to miss several important and useful messages
> because people don't do a simple task of starting a new _thread_ when
> the subject changes. Something that only takes the person who changes
> the subject a few seconds to perform, but would benefit so many more
> people.
>
> Thanks.
> Andrew.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Sunil
> Sent: Mon 05/09/2005 14:14
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Moderators request once more: Subject naming
>
> Ray, I'm not quite sure what your point is here, but personally, who
> cares about people who sort their messages by conversation? All this
> netiquette stuff geeky and unnecessary. The subjectline makes clear
> what the message is about (it does in my experience of being on this
> list anyway) so if you're not interested, don't read it!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of
> Ray's Home
> Sent: 05 September 2005 14:06
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Moderators request once more: Subject naming
>
>
> Barry, I've tried to observe good netiquette in this field, as when I
> posted
> this morning about the Dailly Telegraph Bootcamp series, which would have
> sat oddly in the middle of a conversation about backing up Outlook files.
>
> I find it equally frustrating when a thread starts that I'm not
> greatly interested in, only to mutate into something entirely
> different that I am interested in, except that, by then, I've decided
> to ignore it and it passes me by. Like most here, I cannot, and do
> not read everything. I thought, and I might be wrong, that when a
> subject line is changed one should mention
> it in the body of the text, at the start of a message, and I will own up
> to
> not always doing that.
>
> I often take the liberty too of lopping off the earlier parts of a
> conversation that maybe go back days. One of the pains of 'top
> posting' as I belive its called is, not just reading the conversation
> backwards, but all
> the greater than or other indent signs you get as you move down the
> message,
> not to mention the seemingly enldessly repeated group message at the end.
> That of course eventually makes the message too long to be accepted by the
> server, or for those apparantly in digest mode, although I don't quite
> understand the last.
>
> One final moane, and please list owner, don't come back at me and say
> 'boring' but surely most here can send thank you messages off list.
> Well, that's what I tend to do. Ray
>
> Personal emails: Email me at
> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dj Paddy"
>
> | Hi all.
> |
> | Please please please please please!
> |
> | Don't just rename/add/edit a subject field start a new, brand new
> | mailing even if it's only a word to add to the subject field.
> |
> | For anyone grouping by conversation whither their using OE or other
> | mail clients this makes things a nightmare and they may miss the
> | subject if
> their
> | not interested in that thread but may be interested in what it'
> | sbeen developed into. Barry
> |
>
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