[access-uk] Re: Moderators request once more: Subject naming

  • From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:24:33 +0100

Hi Sunil,

I don't believe you can just brush netiquette off the table in this manner.  
Imagine for example that if you are in a room, everyone in the room spoke to 
you differently, expected certain things from you, etc, you would soon find 
issues.  Ensuring that on lists such as this people follow some simple 
guidelines will make things much easier down the line.  I know I brushed 
against netiquette for a few years with my top posting protest, but after 
realising that people were not able to take full advantage of the time I spent 
into writing such messages etc, I decided to follow the convension.

Now taking Barry's original request into account - people who group by 
conversation are likely to miss several important and useful messages because 
people don't do a simple task of starting a new _thread_ when the subject 
changes.  Something that only takes the person who changes the subject a few 
seconds to perform, but would benefit so many more people.

Thanks.
Andrew.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Sunil
Sent: Mon 05/09/2005 14:14
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Moderators request once more:  Subject naming
 
Ray, I'm not quite sure what your point is here, but personally, who cares
about people who sort their messages by conversation? All this netiquette
stuff geeky and unnecessary. The subjectline makes clear what the message is
about (it does in my experience of being on this list anyway) so if you're
not interested, don't read it!



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Ray's Home
Sent: 05 September 2005 14:06
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Moderators request once more: Subject naming


Barry, I've tried to observe good netiquette in this field, as when I posted
this morning about the Dailly Telegraph Bootcamp series, which would have
sat oddly in the middle of a conversation about backing up Outlook files.

I find it equally frustrating when a thread starts that I'm not greatly
interested in, only to mutate into something entirely different that I am
interested in, except that, by then, I've decided to ignore it and it passes
me by.  Like most here, I cannot, and do not read everything.  I thought,
and I might be wrong, that when a subject line is changed one should mention
it in the body of the text, at the start of a message, and I will own up to
not always doing that.

I often take the liberty too of lopping off the earlier parts of a
conversation that maybe go back days.  One of the pains of 'top posting' as
I belive its called is, not just reading the conversation backwards, but all
the greater than or other indent signs you get as you move down the message,
not to mention the seemingly enldessly repeated group message at the end.
That of course eventually makes the message too long to be accepted by the
server, or for those apparantly in digest mode, although I don't quite
understand the last.

One final moane, and please list owner, don't come back at me and say
'boring' but surely most here can send thank you messages off list.  Well,
that's what I tend to do. Ray

Personal emails:  Email me at
mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dj Paddy" 

| Hi all.
| 
| Please please please please please!
| 
| Don't just rename/add/edit a subject field start a new, brand new 
| mailing
| even if it's only a word to add to the subject field.
| 
| For anyone grouping by conversation whither their using OE or other 
| mail
| clients this makes things a nightmare and they may miss the subject if
their 
| not interested in that thread but may be interested in what it' sbeen 
| developed into.
| Barry
| 


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