[access-uk] Re: Moderators request once more: Subject naming

  • From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:17:34 +0100

Hi,

Where Barry is coming from I think is the following:

When you reply to a message, a header gets added to the message - which you 
won't oridinarly see, which tells the client that it is a reply from another 
message.  If for example I am reading a message about soap, and decide that I 
want to talk about accessible washing machines, if I replied to the message on 
soap, put in what I wanted to on accessible washing machines, then changed the 
subject and hit send, that message would go off with the header including the 
details for the original thread, and thus some programs will put the message in 
the same thread as the soap conversation, which is then possible to skip if you 
just delete the full conversation.

In order to get round this, you need to come out of the message you are 
reading, and start a brand new message to Access-uk with a new subject, 
directly by pressing ctrl+N on the mail screen.

I also hate top posting, but since starting to use Outlook last year now I have 
got more used to it on blindness lists, though do try and trim some parts of it 
near the bottom, though in my mind this is much harder work than posting 
correctly, trimming as you go allong.  However, we have been there many times.

Hope this helps,
Andrew.


-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Ray's Home
Sent: Mon 05/09/2005 14:06
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Moderators request once more:  Subject naming
 
Barry, I've tried to observe good netiquette in this field, as when I posted 
this morning about the Dailly Telegraph Bootcamp series, which would have sat 
oddly in the middle of a conversation about backing up Outlook files.

I find it equally frustrating when a thread starts that I'm not greatly 
interested in, only to mutate into something entirely different that I am 
interested in, except that, by then, I've decided to ignore it and it passes me 
by.  Like most here, I cannot, and do not read everything.  I thought, and I 
might be wrong, that when a subject line is changed one should mention it in 
the body of the text, at the start of a message, and I will own up to not 
always doing that.

I often take the liberty too of lopping off the earlier parts of a conversation 
that maybe go back days.  One of the pains of 'top posting' as I belive its 
called is, not just reading the conversation backwards, but all the greater 
than or other indent signs you get as you move down the message, not to mention 
the seemingly enldessly repeated group message at the end.  That of course 
eventually makes the message too long to be accepted by the server, or for 
those apparantly in digest mode, although I don't quite understand the last.

One final moane, and please list owner, don't come back at me and say 'boring' 
but surely most here can send thank you messages off list.  Well, that's what I 
tend to do.
Ray

Personal emails:  Email me at
mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dj Paddy" 

| Hi all.
| 
| Please please please please please!
| 
| Don't just rename/add/edit a subject field start a new, brand new mailing 
| even if it's only a word to add to the subject field.
| 
| For anyone grouping by conversation whither their using OE or other mail 
| clients this makes things a nightmare and they may miss the subject if their 
| not interested in that thread but may be interested in what it' sbeen 
| developed into.
| Barry
| 


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