It isn't simply geekiness Sunil but practicality. Its just that we could make life so much easier for everyone on list if we show some mutual consideration, even if it does take a little more time. I've made my point however, and do not intend starting a flaming session, although I think some like that sort of thing. Seems to brighten their lives up. Ray Personal emails: Email me at mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sunil" Ray, I'm not quite sure what your point is here, but personally, who cares about people who sort their messages by conversation? All this netiquette stuff geeky and unnecessary. The subjectline makes clear what the message is about (it does in my experience of being on this list anyway) so if you're not interested, don't read it! -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray's Home Sent: 05 September 2005 14:06 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Moderators request once more: Subject naming Barry, I've tried to observe good netiquette in this field, as when I posted this morning about the Dailly Telegraph Bootcamp series, which would have sat oddly in the middle of a conversation about backing up Outlook files. I find it equally frustrating when a thread starts that I'm not greatly interested in, only to mutate into something entirely different that I am interested in, except that, by then, I've decided to ignore it and it passes me by. Like most here, I cannot, and do not read everything. I thought, and I might be wrong, that when a subject line is changed one should mention it in the body of the text, at the start of a message, and I will own up to not always doing that. I often take the liberty too of lopping off the earlier parts of a conversation that maybe go back days. One of the pains of 'top posting' as I belive its called is, not just reading the conversation backwards, but all the greater than or other indent signs you get as you move down the message, not to mention the seemingly enldessly repeated group message at the end. That of course eventually makes the message too long to be accepted by the server, or for those apparantly in digest mode, although I don't quite understand the last. One final moane, and please list owner, don't come back at me and say 'boring' but surely most here can send thank you messages off list. Well, that's what I tend to do. Ray Personal emails: Email me at mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dj Paddy" | Hi all. | | Please please please please please! | | Don't just rename/add/edit a subject field start a new, brand new | mailing | even if it's only a word to add to the subject field. | | For anyone grouping by conversation whither their using OE or other | mail | clients this makes things a nightmare and they may miss the subject if their | not interested in that thread but may be interested in what it' sbeen | developed into. | Barry | ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq